Smith and Wesson take on Keltec, MP12 shotty!

[Member 34319]

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[The Heretic]

Hopefully S&W did a better design/implementation job than KT

 

[Member 34319]

Hopefully S&W did a better design/implementation job than KT

Looks like it thus far. The external mag tube switch is a giant step in the right direction. It was designed to cycle mini shells from the get go. About the only negative is it's price is about 300 more than the KSG.

 

[Bam]

I might get one if the street price comes down.

I always wanted a KSG, however, I would never own a Keltec.

 

[Member 34319]

I might get one if the street price comes down.

I always wanted a KSG, however, I would never own a Keltec.

I've been looking to add a pump to my collection. Something that would make a good host for my soon to be Salvo. I was looking hard at the KS7. This just looks like what a Keltec could be if they actually took some time and care in their production.

 

[Kruel J]

Looks a little "complicated" like the KSG. Hopefully this is a better offering.

 

[TTSX]

Well, the Kel Tec was in John wick so....

 

[Member 34319]

Looks a little "complicated"

Got that right. I've shot a handful of KSGs, and the UTS one. They are interesting to say the least. They are difficult to load and overall more complicated when compared to traditional shotguns.

 

[Member 34319]

Well, the Kel Tec was in John wick so....

Ya but, it wasn't even their most tactical model.

 

[Nosferatu]

Well, I just found my suppressor host.

 

[TTSX]

Well, I just found my suppressor host.

Where are you going to find one (suppressor) and what model? I'm on the waiting list for the salvo 12k and it's been radio silent for a couple months

 

[arakboss]

Hopefully they advertise this for pest control and not for shooting bad guys.

 

[Member 34319]

Where are you going to find one (suppressor) and what model? I'm on the waiting list for the salvo 12k and it's been radio silent for a couple months

It's pretty crazy how the Salvos dried up all of a sudden. I bought my 8" model for $600 on Silencershop before things went nuts. Now they are all back to $1000 plus if you can find one.

 

[Nosferatu]

Where are you going to find one (suppressor) and what model? I'm on the waiting list for the salvo 12k and it's been radio silent for a couple months

I've had a salvo for a couple years now.

 

[The Heretic]

Looks like it thus far. The external mag tube switch is a giant step in the right direction. It was designed to cycle mini shells from the get go. About the only negative is it's price is about 300 more than the KSG.

Yeah - I saw the diagram that seemed to include mini shells, but the text I read only mentioned 2.75" & 3", so I thought it was safer to not assume it would work with mini-shells. I will wait for someone to test it with mini-shells, and it those work flawlessly, then I may get one, if it is ~$1K or less.

 

[Flopsweat]

Yeah - I saw the diagram that seemed to include mini shells, but the text I read only mentioned 2.75" & 3", so I thought it was safer to not assume it would work with mini-shells. I will wait for someone to test it with mini-shells, and it those work flawlessly, then I may get one, if it is ~$1K or less.

Reviews say that it will handle mini-shells but the S&W website doesn't seem to mention them. I probably does.

Is there a speed loader that works with these?

EDIT: There is an illustration of a mini-shell on the S&W site, right above the words "Run different shells. Mix and match" so I'd say this is a thing.

 

[The Heretic]

Does a Salvo fit where the choke is?

doesn't look like the barrel on that shotgun extends out very far.

 

[nammac]

Interesting…. Then comes the pricing…

The MSRP on the new M&P12 shotgun is $1,165.

Should be able to find them on GB for about $1K or so…

 

[nammac]

Reviews say that it will handle mini-shells but the S&W website doesn't seem to mention them. I probably does.

Is there a speed loader that works with these?

EDIT: There is an illustration of a mini-shell on the S&W site, right above the words "Run different shells. Mix and match" so I'd say this is a thing.

Capacity is 20 mini shells

 

[Nosferatu]

Does a Salvo fit where the choke is?

doesn't look like the barrel on that shotgun extends out very far.

It should. Uses Rem-Chokes. The salvo hangs off 3/8" or so from the end of the muzzle.