Small 1911 style pistols?

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  1. PDX1953

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    My everyday carry is a 9mm Colt Defender that's been tuned up and Cerakoted. Once I get some range time I'll swap it for a 9mm Para Hi-Cap (12 rds) Hawk I just had Cerakoted.

    I'd been carrying a 9mm Glock 26 but couldn't get a trigger I liked so I bought the Defender & it changed my life by shredding my checkbook. The photo is just for size comparison between the Defender & the Hawg.

    1911 inventory:
    GSG 1911 .22 LR ***
    GSG 922 Commander size .22 LR ***
    9mm Colt Defender
    9mm Springfield Armory Range Officer Compact
    9mm Nighthawk Custom Ladyhawk
    .45 ACP Colt Double Eagle 1st Edition (1 of 1000) *
    9mm Dan Wesson ECO
    .45 ACP Para Ordnance Expert Carry *
    9mm Para Hi-Cap Hawg - also have an 18 rd mag
    .45 ACP Para USA Black Ops
    .45 ACP S&W1911 Pro

    * Safe Queens I'll never fire.

    *** Purchased prior to 2016. All others purchased in the last 12 months.

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  2. Ura-Ki

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    I alway sforget about the Para WartHawg series 1911 compact double stacks. THey had a bad rap when they first came out, but they worked out the kinks and turned it into a very reliable shooter. I had one several years ago, and never had any problems with it. Traded it for the STI frame kit and Slide that I used to build the Compact double stack! Pretty much any thing Para has built the last 15 to 20 years is going to run well for ya!
     
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  3. PaulB47

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    I had a Colt Government .380 a while ago. Can't remember why I got rid of it, kinda wish I hadn't now.
    A Tale of Two Colts in .380
     
  4. Oathkeeper1775

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    Get at least one of everything; you may like the FNS9C.
     
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  5. Certaindeaf

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    Just get a snubnose revolver in your chosen caliber and be done with it! A man needs two handguns anyway.
    lol
     
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  6. FordPrefect

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    Crap, I have too many now... 2 1911's, 1 XDm, 1 500 Mag...

    Are you sure I only need 2? :p
     
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  7. Certaindeaf

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    I've always considered ".a .45acp 1911 (4.25" LW Commander).." a "small 1911 style pistol".
    but that's just me
     
  8. sigmadog

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    Well, my wife certainly thinks it's big.

    …we're still talking about guns, right?
     
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    I hear you and certainly understand your like for your short and light 1911 (the original is three pounds unloaded). .45acp.
    But with that said, I'd still say again to check out the revolver family. They go from 11 oz .357 magnums to three pound .22lr's.. and everything in between.
     
  10. twowheels

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    Love my eco. Super high quality and shoots lights out.
     
  11. uberguy

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    Big 1911 fan, have owned more than a few, long, short whatever.
    Personally after owning a couple of Colt Officer's models, don't care for the 3"+ models. 4 or 4.25 is ideal in ACP.
    This is my favorite carry piece - got a bobtail job for mine.
    1911 Champion™ Operator® Lightweight .45ACP ... - Springfield Armory
    But in reality - it will run you $800 and up for any of the better carry 1911s in 45 or 9mm.
    If you're looking for a more affordable option with the same controls - consider a S&W M&P Compact (with thumb safety) in 45 or 9mm. Closer to $500; I've seen the newer Browning 1911/380 but just wouldn't prefer to depend on that and while this model is smaller/lighter than other 1911s - there are plenty of other guns with more punch that are small and light.
     
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  12. sigmadog

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    Okay, I've decided I'm going to look for a Colt Defender in .45 ACP. This will simplify my ammunition situation since my LW Commander eats the same.

    Here's my question: Will my full size Commander mags work in the Defender? I've heard there can be problems if you slap them into the smaller model with the slide open as it can cause overtravel and jam, but other than that it appears my current mags will work in the Defender.
     
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  13. FordPrefect

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    They should. I use my Springfield RO mags in my Sig Ultra-Compact. I don't go from the smaller to the larger though. I also know that I just feed both of the time mainly using Wilson Combat 8 round mags though. Just personal preference, ymmv.
     
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    Good point about not going from the smaller to the larger - they may not be tall enough.
     
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    I have the p938, p238, Colt Defender in 9mm and 45 acp. When I can wear a concealing shirt or jacket, my choice is the Defender 45 ACP . I just like the idea of that 230 grain bullet saving my butt, if it comes to that. The Defenders fit my large hands perfectly ( 6' 5", 210 lbs ) , so for accuracy , they're my choice. The small Sig's ( 938 and 238) have a place , but not in the same accuracy class of the 45 ACP Defender. You have to decide what works for YOU ! :)
     
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  16. brentb636

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    I have not had any problem with my longer 1911 mags in my Defender. I only use them for range work ( load a bunch at home and shoot them later) . I only use original mags for self defense purposes, but for "just shooting" I have no problems with others.
     
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    I was never 100% sure they would work, but I have plenty of Wilson mags that I typically just use them for shooting as well as have them loaded for self defense.
     
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    I'm sure it'll fit my delicate artist hands as well! ;) Not too worried since my other gun is a Commander.

    After holding the Kimber Ultra Carry today, which is very similar in size and weight to the Defender, I'm looking forward to getting the Defender - I think it's the perfect size and caliber for my personal defense carry.
     
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    I'm late to the party as usual...

    Part of your original post was trying to locate a comfortable iwb holster for a commander size 1911...

    I would highly recommend a Milt Sparks Nexus. That's what I carry my commander in. It's comfortable, not bulky and distributes the weight well...
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    I've tried dozens of holsters and couldn't comfortablycarry that bulk until I started using the Nexus... They're not cheap, but worth every penny.

    Combine that with a real gunbelt, I prefer the BigFoot gun belts myself, and you've got a reasonable easy to carry package.

    You've also been given some great carry options, the XDs 3.3 in .45 ACP is real easy to make disappear in a Bianchi T100 Professional, combo makes it easy to appendix carry...
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    The Kimber Micro 9mm is a great pocket gun, add in some Sig P938 extended magazines and your carrying 7+1 in a tiny package that has great sights and is controllable with the extended magazine.
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    There, I've summed up my main three carry sidearms...

    Hope this information proved helpful...
     
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  20. SA Shooter

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    Did someone say Springfield Armory Champion Lightweight Operator??? Now that's a dang good pistol. Not necessarily small or light but they are great shooters. I really, really like mine:

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