Sleeping with Wolves?

[RVTECH]

Late 90's or very early 2000's I saw wolf tracks on the east side of Mt. Hood.

A guy I once worked with told me he was camping out at Wickiup Res in the late 80's and had to run into LaPine for some stuff.

Upon returning to camp he was on the road on the South side of the res and it was late afternoon and he said he saw what he thought MIGHT have been a wolf run across the road.

He couldn't say for sure but he said it was NOT a coyote as it was much larger and running differently and that it was NOT a dog.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

No doubt hunting house cats and little yappy bubblegum dogs. The dogs I can live without, nice and quiet.

I woudl think so but the lady only had a small child, no pets, so she was wise to be concerned.

 

[RVTECH]

Ya think wolves are a problem check out Columbia's problem with hippos . When Pablo Escobar was still living there he had a small zoo on one of his places with 1 male and 3 female hippos and they either got loose or turned loose and now there are estimated around 200+/- hippos running around messing up the land and even going into towns running wild in the streets.

Apparently they are causing algae problems in rivers and running local animals out of their territories .

The government was working to control them but after one aggressive male was shot it sparked outrage from animal rights activists and halted efforts to rein them in.

 

[Koda]

I see this as just a tourist trap. These wolves are probably not wild but in a high fence wildlife preserve.
On one side I don't care if people want to sleep with the wolves it would be fun, but my observations from people I know who've traveled to stay in wildlife preserves to view monkeys, zebras and elands off the back deck from a sauna all of a sudden become "wildlife experts". This kind of stuff just creates more of a disconnect with reality.

 

[RVTECH]

stay in wildlife preserves to view monkeys

Heck I'd rather go to South Africa and get in on some of the vervet monkey shooting!

Man those things are as thick as rats in some areas.

 

[mrblond]

I remember that guy years back who lived as a wolf in a pack. When the young males started to mature he left. I remember someone asked why he left and he replied. they would have killed me.

Personally, i dont think i would sleep with anything that might seem me as food

 

[solv3nt]

Personally, i dont think i would sleep with anything that might seem me as food

Stay away from cougars.

 

[titsonritz]

Is this a new Kevin Costner sequel?

 

[Andy54Hawken]

Is this a new Kevin Costner sequel?

If it had Patrick Swayze...
It would be Dirty Dances With Wolves at the Roadhouse....
Andy

 

[Tlock]

Ya think wolves are a problem check out Columbia's problem with hippos . When Pablo Escobar was still living there he had a small zoo on one of his places with 1 male and 3 female hippos and they either got loose or turned loose and now there are estimated around 200+/- hippos running around messing up the land and even going into towns running wild in the streets.

Apparently they are causing algae problems in rivers and running local animals out of their territories .

The government was working to control them but after one aggressive male was shot it sparked outrage from animal rights activists and halted efforts to rein them in.

I was on the short list to go kill them before I quite

 

[Certaindeaf]

Lodges That Let People "Sleep With The Wolves" A Bad Idea, Wyoming Wildlife Experts Say

A wildlife preserve in Canada has lodges where visitors have only a pane of glass between them and a pack of wolves. Billed as a chance to “sleep with the…

cowboystatedaily.com

Peeks out single-pane window in Portland Oregon at a pack of murderbums dragging their haul of empty cans down the sidewalk.. winning!

 

[Koda]

Peeks out single-pane window in Portland Oregon at a pack of murderbums dragging their haul of empty cans down the sidewalk.. winning!

In Portland you can do it for free every commute...

 

[mrblond]

If it had Patrick Swayze...
It would be Dirty Dances With Wolves at the Roadhouse....
Andy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBnBPxEHY4E

 

[thorborg]

I guess this isn't a Romulus and Remus thread.

 

[Alexx1401]

Interesting note on coyotes. In the last 6 mo or so nextdoor has tons of reports of coyotes hunting in packs in Portland. Fe one lady walking with their kid last week had coyote pack circling them and would not go away. Good excuse to carry that extra little .22 with suppressor.
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The Coyotes learned to survive VERY well around humans unlike their larger cousins. They are VERY smart and of course think of anything they can kill as a simple source of food. We have one large Male who comes here a lot to hunt. I feed the wild rabbit population so he has food and leaves my chickens alone. While back he did get one of them when Wife forgot to close them up one night. Come morning they were out exploring before I got home from work and one of them became a meal. Cats, dogs, all are just food for them. I have had the one follow me several times when walking my dog off leash here. Since he has plenty of food I suspect he is more curios of my small dog that looking at her as food. I still keep a close eye on him when he is watching us of course and keep her from running off to "play" with him.

 

[Alexx1401]

Lodges That Let People "Sleep With The Wolves" A Bad Idea, Wyoming Wildlife Experts Say

A wildlife preserve in Canada has lodges where visitors have only a pane of glass between them and a pack of wolves. Billed as a chance to “sleep with the…

cowboystatedaily.com

If they really want the "public" to see them "wild"? They should let them watch them hunting things like Deer. Most of them would not want to come back to see that again

 

[1911Fanatic]

Ya think wolves are a problem check out Columbia's problem with hippos . When Pablo Escobar was still living there he had a small zoo on one of his places with 1 male and 3 female hippos and they either got loose or turned loose and now there are estimated around 200+/- hippos running around messing up the land and even going into towns running wild in the streets.

Apparently they are causing algae problems in rivers and running local animals out of their territories .

The government was working to control them but after one aggressive male was shot it sparked outrage from animal rights activists and halted efforts to rein them in.

If Columbia was really concerned about public perception, they would do more to end the drug trade.

 

[titsonritz]

If it had Patrick Swayze...
It would be Dirty Dances With Wolves at the Roadhouse....
Andy

Except you'll need an Ouija board to watch it.

 

[Spitpatch]

Especially when the creature needs to be 'artificially' maintained with collars, tracking etc.

As I have said before, Wolves had their chance environmentally and apparently couldn't survive. Compare them to coyotes which can survive nearly anywhere and anything - including humans - and are doing quite well.

1. Collars and tracking devices are not "artificially maintaining" Wolves. They serve as devices for study of the species. Yes, for information toward their preservation, but equally used as data toward their control.

2. Yes, Wolves had their chance "environmentally", and survived and succeeded more than admirably for thousands of years. In locations such as Alaska and Minnesota (with humans), they continue to do so. They "apparently couldn't survive" a 3-century effort with no-holds barred toward their total eradication. Our own species would have less luck.

3. Coyotes were NOT "doing quite well" prior to the ban on strychnine for controlling them. Stark evidence of this is the Jackrabbit population: Entirely out of control in the '50's and '60's, and in the space of less than a decade reduced to scarcity in areas formerly overrun with them.

4. Coyotes STILL do NOT "do quite well" when all means are directed at their eradication, as has been done with Wolves. A Montana ranch I've been hunting over 50 years employed a helicopter (flown by the Patriarch, who was a Warrant Officer/Huey Pilot in Viet Nam) in the winter, and coyotes became very nearly non-existent, while they thrived on neighbor ranches and learned swiftly where the fence lines of safety were.

I have slept with Wolves on five occasions in Alaska. No glass barrier. In camp at night on numerous times just outside the tent wall, and howling from a circle they had formed around the camp.. A circumference of human urine around Caribou and Sheep kills served to keep them at bay until additional trips could be completed to pack out the meat. I never feared for my safety, but kept my gun oiled and handy. Fear was saved for the constant and genuine threat of insect life.

Should the impression be gathered that I am "pro-Wolf", nothing could be further from the truth. I believe they should be severely controlled, and landowners should have autonomy for doing so. Game populations (as a base for the economy of numerous human communities) likewise need consideration and protection, under the scrutiny of qualified Biologists allowed to draw impartial conclusions toward Wolf management practices.

But the constant presence of Wolves in Alaska was a reassuring indicator that I was truly in the wild, and I was inspired on the few occasions when they allowed me a glimpse.

 

[Idaho44]

Saw a wolf crossing the road way back in the early 90's just west of Dayville. Listened to them howl and saw them after the re-introduction in Idaho (saw the tracks etc. prior to that). They are 'sketchy' in the wild and not to be trifled with as some have learned the hard way. They do not stay in one place but like mountain lions will follow the "food"!