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Six men sentenced/bull elk kill

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by rusobr2, Jan 13, 2010.

  1. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Six Men Sentenced in October 2009 Cottage Grove-area Illegal Killing of 4 Bull Elk (Photos)‏
    From: stevereissr@hotmail.com

    this just came across my- info flash- from OSP
    if i new how to do all the cut -copy ,and paste -i would have made i5t easier for you guys.
    steven
     
  2. rusobr2

    rusobr2 prineville,or Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    JOHN ATWATER pled guilty to:* Four (4) counts of Unlawful Take of Bull Elk* Two (2) counts of Hunting on the Enclosed Lands of Another* Two (2) counts of Borrowing a Big Game TagHe was sentenced to:* Forty (40) days in the Lane County Jail* 24 months probation* Ordered to pay $6,000 in restitution to ODFW* $6,674 fine* Ordered to forfeit his rifle* Lifetime suspension of hunting privileges
    DUSTIN ATWATER, age 26, pled guilty to:* Aiding in Game Violation* Criminal Trespass in the Second DegreeHe was sentenced to:* Fifteen (15) days in the Lane County Jail* 18 months probation* Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW* $892 fine* 48 month hunting license suspension
    DAVID PRUITT, age 78, pled guilty to:* Aiding in Game Violation* Loaning Big Game Tag* Hunting while in violation of Criminal TrespassHe was sentenced to:* 24 months probation* Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW* $2,304 fine* Complete 100 hours of community service* 36 month hunting license suspension
    HOMER RHODES, age 74, pled guilty to:* Two (2) counts of Aiding in Game Violation* Loaning Big Game TagHe was sentenced to:* 24 months probation* Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW* Complete 60 hours of community service
    CHRISTOPHER STEVENS, age 35, pled guilty to:* Aiding in Game ViolationHe was sentenced to:* 24 months probation* Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW* $1,202 fine* Complete 160 hours of community service* 36 month hunting license suspension
    BRYAN SHEPARD, age not available, pled guilty to:* Aiding in Game ViolationHe was sentenced to:* 24 months probation* Complete 100 hours of community service* 24 month hunting license suspension

    right or wrong --i 'm tring to feed you thr imfo
    steven
     
  3. Razloga

    Razloga Oregon Member

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    Wow.. Just wow...

    This has got to be overkill...

    But I suppose they have to make an example out of someone...
     
  4. roguebowhunter

    roguebowhunter medford Member

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    well if i remember this case correctly the DROVE onto private property (fenced i believe) and started shootin .. when they where done 6 was dead and i'm not sure if any wounded. also NOT all of them had tags, thats where the borrowing and loanig tags part comes in... Don
     
  5. Skid_McCoy

    Skid_McCoy Washington New Member

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    Light sentences if you ask me.
     
  6. Razloga

    Razloga Oregon Member

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    Ah, ok- this makes more sense then...



    Why are stupid people allowed guns?...
     
  7. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    I agree, when people take illegal game they are stealing from us, the public.
     
  8. rl280

    rl280 OREGON Member

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    justice
     
  9. kentsboots

    kentsboots Oregon Member

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    I knew a guy who poached for YEARS with his cousins, finally got caught. Seems to be a habbit for the ones who do it. Seems they were pretty bold about it in a situation like this, obviously planned on it, and probably wasnt the first time. i say give em the harsh penalty.
     
  10. Yankeefan

    Yankeefan Southern Oregon Member

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    Yup.

    Things like this give all of us hunters a bad name.
     
  11. LogicBomb

    LogicBomb Grants Pass Active Member

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    I remember a few years ago when some ppl went to the elk viewing area near Coos Bay and shot 4-5 bull elk and only took the heads..I dont see a problem filling the freezer if you are hungry but poaching for the sake of putting a rack on the wall I have a problem with
     
  12. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    There is no excuse for poaching period.
     
  13. Silver Fox

    Silver Fox Puyallup, WA Well-Known Member

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    These guys are only a very small percentage who do not get caught, so no this punishment is not overkill.

    SF-
     
  14. Scott

    Scott Battle Ground Well-Known Member

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    Unless they start to do what Africa does to poachers you can't stop it. The ramifacations for it are not that harsh. If you punish people hard enough then they start to think about their actions.
     
  15. dr*pop

    dr*pop Central OR Member

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    dr*pop Central OR Member

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    I see the fines to the government, but what about to the property owner?
     
  17. safooma

    safooma Oregon Member

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    I posted this in the other thread in the hunting forum. Reposting here:


    Sentencing was handed down today:

    Taken from http://www.nwsportsmanmag.com/articl...uilty,+Guilty/

    JOHN ATWATER pled guilty to:
    * Four (4) counts of Unlawful Take of Bull Elk
    * Two (2) counts of Hunting on the Enclosed Lands of Another
    * Two (2) counts of Borrowing a Big Game Tag
    He was sentenced to:
    * Forty (40) days in the Lane County Jail
    * 24 months probation
    * Ordered to pay $6,000 in restitution to ODFW
    * $6,674 fine
    * Ordered to forfeit his rifle
    * Lifetime suspension of hunting privileges

    DUSTIN ATWATER, age 26, pled guilty to:
    * Aiding in Game Violation
    * Criminal Trespass in the Second Degree
    He was sentenced to:
    * Fifteen (15) days in the Lane County Jail
    * 18 months probation
    * Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW
    * $892 fine
    * 48 month hunting license suspension

    DAVID PRUITT, age 78, pled guilty to:
    * Aiding in Game Violation
    * Loaning Big Game Tag
    * Hunting while in violation of Criminal Trespass
    He was sentenced to:
    * 24 months probation
    * Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW
    * $2,304 fine
    * Complete 100 hours of community service
    * 36 month hunting license suspension

    HOMER RHODES, age 74, pled guilty to:
    * Two (2) counts of Aiding in Game Violation
    * Loaning Big Game Tag
    He was sentenced to:
    * 24 months probation
    * Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW
    * Complete 60 hours of community service

    CHRISTOPHER STEVENS, age 35, pled guilty to:
    * Aiding in Game Violation
    He was sentenced to:
    * 24 months probation
    * Ordered to pay $1,500 in restitution to ODFW
    * $1,202 fine
    * Complete 160 hours of community service
    * 36 month hunting license suspension

    BRYAN SHEPARD, age not available, pled guilty to:
    * Aiding in Game Violation
    He was sentenced to:
    * 24 months probation
    * Complete 100 hours of community service
    * 24 month hunting license suspension

    BTW, I know this guy and he isn't as bad a guy as you would think. He had permission to hunt on the property and thought he had only shot one elk--he thought he had missed the one elk twice before bringing it down--turns out it was four that were standing next to each other. The first two both dropped on the first shots and the third shot killed 2. These were long shots(300ish yards).

    The rest of it was all bad decisions...trying to get find others to tag the extra kills, once discovered, and the elks were actually on the next property over--not the two he had permission to hunt. The fact that it wasn't season yet--he says he thought it was cascade bull elk centerfire season(listed as oct17-oct23). I just turns out he wasnt in an appropriate unit. Understood this is not an excuse.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not defending this guy, just offering a bit of the other side of the story. He screwed up and is paying a heavy toll--i just hope he doesn't lose his livelyhood over it. He wasn't purposely poaching these animals, just being a moron ;-)
     
  18. Newcastle

    Newcastle Newcastle Member

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    poached elk, ya gotta have a real big pan for that don't ya?
     
  19. eriknemily

    eriknemily Tillamook County (Cheese!) Member

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    The moron part is where he and apparently a few friends tried their hardest to cover up what happened, right? I remember my parents always told me that the TRUTH is always the best approach. I'm sure there would have been some serious ramifications even if he went straight to ODFW or the police once he realized what he did but I'm sure he'd be in a better situation than he is in now. Lies only get you in deeper poo!!!
     
  20. 2gr8dgs

    2gr8dgs oregon Active Member

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    [QUOTE

    BTW, I know this guy and he isn't as bad a guy as you would think.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not defending this guy,

    so..... he poaches multiple elk, on private property, that he doesn't have permission to hunt on, out of season. sounds like a simple misunderstanding to me!