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Single shot only competition?

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I'm looking into upgrading my CZs for some fun competition & i keep seeing these single shot adapters online. As I'm going along finding things i stumbled into an Anschutz 54 looking for a Winchester model 52. The Annie is wonderful, omg what a trigger, the Unertl scope. Im interested in it but i can't find a place for single shot only rifles to compete. I've Google net searched, called people, shops & the range. All I've found is 2 specific bench rest rule sets that require multiple rounds loaded. Nothing for single shot.

What are the single shot adaptors for? What's an old Annie for anymore, competition wise. What event uses single shot only rifles?
 
Now, I don't know this from experience, so take it with some NaCl...the big crystally kind.

The bullet on a .22lr is pretty soft and easily scratched or deformed, which would rob you of accuracy. As the bolt pushes the round out of the magazine, it usually has to come up to the chamber via a feeding ramp and this interaction could scratch or damage the bullet.

The single shot adapters take this interaction of parts out of play, allowing you to place the round onto the adapter and to have the bolt take it straight into the chamber...so the shape of the bullet is preserved.

Conceptually, this makes a lot of sense...but I haven't tested my CZ or 10/22 even to validate how often bullets get scratched up. On a failure to feed with the 10/22, the casing of the round usually gets smooshed in...so I've no doubt that gun may scratch a bullet on feed. The CZ though...not sure.

At least 1 competition level .22 maker touts their design similarly to what I've said: V-22 Rimfire Repeater Action - Vudoo Gun Works

The V-22 has a very unique control-round-feed protocol. The bolt has full capture control of the cartridge from the time it leaves the magazine until it ejects the spent round out the ejection port. The significance of that is two-fold. Great feed and extraction reliability and…equally as important, the cartridge is controlled in a way that it never touches anything on its entrance into the bore. There is no feed ramp, nor does the projectile go in at an angle that would damage it in any way.
 

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Now, I don't know this from experience, so take it with some NaCl...the big crystally kind.

The bullet on a .22lr is pretty soft and easily scratched or deformed, which would rob you of accuracy. As the bolt pushes the round out of the magazine, it usually has to come up to the chamber via a feeding ramp and this interaction could scratch or damage the bullet.

The single shot adapters take this interaction of parts out of play, allowing you to place the round onto the adapter and to have the bolt take it straight into the chamber...so the shape of the bullet is preserved.

Conceptually, this makes a lot of sense...but I haven't tested my CZ or 10/22 even to validate how often bullets get scratched up. On a failure to feed with the 10/22, the casing of the round usually gets smooshed in...so I've no doubt that gun may scratch a bullet on feed. The CZ though...not sure.

At least 1 competition level .22 maker touts their design similarly to what I've said: V-22 Rimfire Repeater Action - Vudoo Gun Works
That's interesting because its something I was thinking about the other day when I was shooting my new Savage single shot target rifle. I was using Norma match 22lr ammo and it was not feeding super smooth, like it does in my 1949 model 52B. On a few of them I almost pulled them out and set them to the side because I was sure loading them into the chamber was scratching the bullet head. I decided not to and shot this group: This is from a $194.00 rifle:
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First real group I've fired out of the rifle since I bought it, a month ago. Girlfriend has shot it more than I have. If I were the OP, I'd look for clubs that shoot rimfire competitions. To stipulate whether it be "single shot", or magazine fed seems a little ludicrous to me. Rimfire is rimfire. My club shoots rimfire comp at 50 yards, so all my targets I post from my rimfire rifles are shot at 50 yards.

Model 52B, using the same ammo:
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This rifle feeds this ammo slick as snot...
 
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That's interesting because its something I was thinking about the other day when I was shooting my new Savage single shot target rifle. I was using Norma match 22lr ammo and it was not feeding super smooth, like it does in my 1949 model 52B. On a few of them I almost pulled them out and set them to the side because I was sure loading them into the chamber was scratching the bullet head. I decided not to and shot this group: This is from a $194.00 rifle:
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First real group I've fired out of the rifle since I bought it, a month ago. Girlfriend has shot it more than I have. If I were the OP, I'd look for clubs that shoot rimfire competitions. To stipulate whether it be "single shot", or magazine fed seems a little ludicrous to me. Rimfire is rimfire. My club shoots rimfire comp at 50 yards, so all my targets I post from my rimfire rifles are shot at 50 yards.

Model 52B, using the same ammo:
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This rifle feeds this ammo slick as snot...
Nice!
 
That's interesting because its something I was thinking about the other day when I was shooting my new Savage single shot target rifle. I was using Norma match 22lr ammo and it was not feeding super smooth, like it does in my 1949 model 52B. On a few of them I almost pulled them out and set them to the side because I was sure loading them into the chamber was scratching the bullet head. I decided not to and shot this group: This is from a $194.00 rifle:
View attachment 653345

First real group I've fired out of the rifle since I bought it, a month ago. Girlfriend has shot it more than I have. If I were the OP, I'd look for clubs that shoot rimfire competitions. To stipulate whether it be "single shot", or magazine fed seems a little ludicrous to me. Rimfire is rimfire. My club shoots rimfire comp at 50 yards, so all my targets I post from my rimfire rifles are shot at 50 yards.

Model 52B, using the same ammo:
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View attachment 653347
This rifle feeds this ammo slick as snot...
Nice shooting!
 

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Nice shooting!
Thanks guys. I really got lucky when I found them. Both exceptional shooters. I actually let a guy shoot my Winchester model 52 the other day. He is an RSO at the new range across the river from my house and he said he used a 52C in rimfire competition where he grew up. I said, I need to let you shoot my rifle then, to see what it can really do. We were shooting at 50 yards and he put all his shots inside the same hole. I'm not the best iron sight shooter because I have to shoot right handed. Not that I can't shoot right handed, as I shot one of my furthest bucks in the Deschutes canyons at 600 yards right handed. Its just my weak side, you guys know how that is... I'm still wondering if the OP is just wanting to shoot rimfire competition or if he thinks he has to shoot single shot in those comps? My best suggestion to him is to look up some clubs and see what they offer. Someone here may be able to guide him to which clubs are best for that type of shooting as well...
 
Thanks guys. I really got lucky when I found them. Both exceptional shooters. I actually let a guy shoot my Winchester model 52 the other day. He is an RSO at the new range across the river from my house and he said he used a 52C in rimfire competition where he grew up. I said, I need to let you shoot my rifle then, to see what it can really do. We were shooting at 50 yards and he put all his shots inside the same hole. I'm not the best iron sight shooter because I have to shoot right handed. Not that I can't shoot right handed, as I shot one of my furthest bucks in the Deschutes canyons at 600 yards right handed. Its just my weak side, you guys know how that is... I'm still wondering if the OP is just wanting to shoot rimfire competition or if he thinks he has to shoot single shot in those comps? My best suggestion to him is to look up some clubs and see what they offer. Someone here may be able to guide him to which clubs are best for that type of shooting as well...
Why do you have to shoot irons right handed? I'm a lefty as well.......
 

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Why do you have to shoot irons right handed? I'm a lefty as well.......
Bad left eye my friend. I am still good for shooting left handed with a good scope. The above post where I shot the buck at 600 yards in the Deschutes canyons was because my eye was healing up from an injection...:(. I love to hunt and shoot, so nothing was going to stop or slow me down buddy!!!:)
 
Thanks guys. I really got lucky when I found them. Both exceptional shooters. I actually let a guy shoot my Winchester model 52 the other day. He is an RSO at the new range across the river from my house and he said he used a 52C in rimfire competition where he grew up. I said, I need to let you shoot my rifle then, to see what it can really do. We were shooting at 50 yards and he put all his shots inside the same hole. I'm not the best iron sight shooter because I have to shoot right handed. Not that I can't shoot right handed, as I shot one of my furthest bucks in the Deschutes canyons at 600 yards right handed. Its just my weak side, you guys know how that is... I'm still wondering if the OP is just wanting to shoot rimfire competition or if he thinks he has to shoot single shot in those comps? My best suggestion to him is to look up some clubs and see what they offer. Someone here may be able to guide him to which clubs are best for that type of shooting as well...
I'm a righty...but cross eye dominant. Makes shooting with irons a load of fun :D
 
Bad left eye my friend. I am still good for shooting left handed with a good scope. The above post where I shot the buck at 600 yards in the Deschutes canyons was because my eye was healing up from an injection...:(. I love to hunt and shoot, so nothing was going to stop or slow me down buddy!!!:)
Bingo, makes sense now. I thought maybe there was something I needed to be doing different. :)
 
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Well, i got lucky & don't have to worry about if single shot would limit me. I found a wonderful '38 Winchester 52B with complete Vaver peep sight set, shooting glove, arm "sling" & Unertl blocks. I bought it & added a 15x Unertl. I'll go test it & then go find some local matches to try out. I'd wanted a model c for more trigger adjustment but apparently everyone knows about those & what few i can find are way outside my $ capabilities.

Thanks & i hope to learn great things in this new adventure. Slugging. I'm gonna learn to slug a barrel!
 

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