Sighting a new rifle and handgun?

[evandrago]

I am pretty new to ownership - my Sig P365 and Canik were very accurate right off the case, but my Ruger American Rifle .308 and Taurus are not. Is there a place in Portland area that can sight them for me?

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[Andy54Hawken]

You will need to sight them in...since everyone shoots differently.

If I were to sight in your rifle or pistol...it would be sighted in...for me and how I shoot....not for you and how you shoot.
Andy

 

[OutwardHound]

You might look for an outdoor range where rifles are shot. The range master or other personnel might be able to at least bore sight the rifle. Try to get you one paper at least, then zeroing the rifle.

 

[Catfishmoon]

You may want to watch a mixture of YouTube videos or read some articles to get an idea of how to do the process. This is something that each of us goes through in learning how to sight in a gun for the first time...
The adjustments will vary depending on the type of sights on the firearm. For example; a handgun with fixed sights vs a handgun with adjustable sights.

 

[arrowshooter]

What exactly is the issue with the Ruger?

 

[CountryGent]

I am pretty new to ownership - my Sig P365 and Canik were very accurate right off the case, but my Ruger American Rifle .308 and Taurus are not. Is there a place in Portland area that can sight them for me?

There is a good tool available on NWFA to find ranges and such. Just click Resources and then narrow down from there.

You will need to sight them in...since everyone shoots differently.

If I were to sight in your rifle or pistol...it would be sighted in...for me and how I shoot....not for you and how you shoot.
Andy

Exactamente.

 

[orygun]

You will need to sight them in...since everyone shoots differently.

If I were to sight in your rifle or pistol...it would be sighted in...for me and how I shoot....not for you and how you shoot.
Andy

This is very true, but...

I was helping my friend sight in his rifle. He shoots handguns extremely well for someone with little experience, so I figgered the rifle thing would be easy.
We chased bullets all over the target. Adjust the scope this way to chase his shots, then some other way for the next "group". This went on for a bit and he was getting frustrated, not to mention somewhat beat up my his rifle. I had been wondering if we were chasing a technical issue.
He asked if I would take over the shooting. I did and we shortly got the rifle zeroed to my liking. At that point he was able to take the rifle back and make decent hits. Not dead center, but dead deer, if you get my drift.

All of the above posts offering suggestions have validity. But I think you'll be best served by finding someone to be your temporary "coach" and possible troubleshooter. Too bad you weren't doing this a couple of months ago during the hunter sight in days. I'm sure there would have been almost too many helping hands available then.

Good luck!

 

[Andy54Hawken]

This is very true, but...

I was helping my friend sight in his rifle. He shoots handguns extremely well for someone with little experience, so I figgered the rifle thing would be easy.
We chased bullets all over the target. Adjust the scope this way to chase his shots, then some other way for the next "group". This went on for a bit and he was getting frustrated, not to mention somewhat beat up my his rifle. I had been wondering if we were chasing a technical issue.
He asked if I would take over the shooting. I did and we shortly got the rifle zeroed to my liking. At that point he was able to take the rifle back and make decent hits. Not dead center, but dead deer, if you get my drift.

All of the above posts offering suggestions have validity. But I think you'll be best served by finding someone to be your temporary "coach" and possible troubleshooter. Too bad you weren't doing this a couple of months ago during the hunter sight in days. I'm sure there would have been almost too many helping hands available then.

Good luck!

I suppose.

However what I said. still is true...
If I zero / sight in a firearm...it will be sighted in / zeroed...for how I shoot it....
Not for someone else..

I can see the value of having someone who is a 'good shot"....
Zero the firearm so you have a place to start / baseline.
But that still won't have the firearm sighted in for someone else.
You may get lucky and have that zero match...or be close.....but I wouldn't count on it.
Again...it is zeroed...for someone....and now you may have a place to start on paper.
But that is about it.
Andy

 

[orygun]

True, and I will shorten my reply to get straight to the point.
Sometimes new shooters with new guns don't have a good place to start. That's what I did for my friend.

 

[Koda]

One can sight in a firearm for another person. There is a difference between a mechanical zero and how a person shoots, if the person is new and doesn't have fundamentals down it can often be much harder (and frustrating) to learn to shoot and zero at the same time. I have zeroed rifles for friends this way, as Orygun describes, once the gun is zeroed the new person does much better or often starts shooting straight, or you can now tell its them pulling left or something and can work on fundamentals.
The problem with this is there isnt a place that will do it. And if one is new to guns they might not have an experienced friend to help them zero.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

No...it will be sighted in...for whoever has sighted it in...or zeroed it.
Not for anyone else.
There is no way around this.

If you sight in a rifle...yes you will get a place to start for someone else....who will still need to sight it in / zero the firearm for how they shoot.

And since I am not into circular conversations....I am done here.
Andy

 

[edzz]

Our government has some exceptional marksmanship programs that will provide all the training you could want, if you qualify.

 

[drstrangelove]

Things to remember before you trash the RAR in 308...
Flimsy stock may touch the barrel... free floated barrels are the only way to go. If it touches, sand it away until you can run a dollar bill between barrel and stock.
Buy enough scope to aim at the last hole you put in the paper. Not the big red dot. The hole.
Use a bipod and a rear bag.
Don't shoot more than 3-5 shots without letting the barrel cool down for 5-10min.
If you reload, make a ladder for the powder and bullets you have on hand, and continue using the tightest group you make.
Rugers are notorious for the 2+1... 2 shots touching, and a flier. Don't ask me why, ask Bill Ruger with a Ouiji board.
And never, ever let someone adjust your scope... you'll just have to do it all over again.
Clean your barrels... copper builds up just like lead, and so does the carbon ring.

 

[spookshack]

This is why I never pick up battlefield "pick up's", they're never zero'ed to my eye!







Not really…..lol

 

[Joe13]

Get a lead sled for your rifle to take some of the newbie shake out of the factor and do little bits at a time and shoot plenty of ammo between adjustments.

Take breaks, eat a snack etc. there is such a thing as fatigue that will make all the above harder.


I agree with most of the above.

I had to help a friends dad get from 6' from bullseye to within 6". That was a huge moral boost for him and he got closer with time.

I can still out shoot him on a bad day with one hand but I've had a long time to develop that.

 

[evandrago]

What exactly is the issue with the Ruger?

I have shot a few rifles with scope and this one I just can't seem to get accurate so I think it needs to be adjusted. I didn't have this issue with my friends rifles, nor my handguns. I thought maybe it can be done professionally. I will do more research.

 

[evandrago]

Our government has some exceptional marksmanship programs that will provide all the training you could want, if you qualify.

seems a bit overkill for sighting my rifle haha

 

[arrowshooter]

I have shot a few rifles with scope and this one I just can't seem to get accurate so I think it needs to be adjusted. I didn't have this issue with my friends rifles, nor my handguns. I thought maybe it can be done professionally. I will do more research.

OK. What is it doing on paper though?

 

[Koda]

I have shot a few rifles with scope and this one I just can't seem to get accurate so I think it needs to be adjusted. I didn't have this issue with my friends rifles

and this is why someone can sight in a rifle for another....

If the rifles not accurate then that needs to be solved first. It could be the ammo, or the rifle or the scope. Feel free to elaborate whats going on if you want free advice here, start with the group size is best.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I am pretty new to ownership - my Sig P365 and Canik were very accurate right off the case, but my Ruger American Rifle .308 and Taurus are not. Is there a place in Portland area that can sight them for me?

Sighted in and accurate are two different things.