Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

SHTF Tactics

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Riot, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,035
    Likes Received:
    1,725
    Wanted to make this thread an educational one. Someone brought it to my attention that dropping that empty mag is fine for now, but not during TEOWAWKI/SHTF.

    For example- during SHTF, you might not want to drop your magazines. A coworker of mine suggested a drop pouch on your gear- otherwise you will have an expensive single-shot rifle on your hands within a month or two into TEOWAWKI.

    Of course this takes training and practice...and I wanted to know what you recommend or train for differently during TEOWAWKI.

    Shooting groin and head instead of center mass in case they are wearing armor?

    Attaching magazine(s) to your rifle(s) so they don't fall?

    Would like to hear about your suggestions and recommendations....
     
  2. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    4,849
  3. CaliberGeek

    CaliberGeek Seattle, WA Member

    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    24
    I've always run dump pouches in the woods, and I find them an invaluable and extremely versatile accessory to my MOLLE gear. If you practice enough to retain your magazines, then it will become second nature for shtf.
     
  4. bikejunkie

    bikejunkie Salem Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    631
    Likes Received:
    294
    I would never just dump a magazine, especially during the end of the world...
     
  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,772
    Likes Received:
    4,949
    Dump a magazine!!! I'll have a hard time not picking up my brass! 42 years of accounting for every non rimfire case to come out of my firearm is not going away.
     
  6. carracer

    carracer Nampa, Idaho Active Member

    Messages:
    235
    Likes Received:
    81
    Not to mention giving away your location.
     
  7. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    Back in the 1970s at a City Police dept they were required to dump their training fired brass from their revolvers into a nearby container each time. When one of them got in an on duty shootout he was killed while trying to pocket the fired brass
     
  8. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

    Messages:
    4,652
    Likes Received:
    5,753
    Agreed, never leave your mag(s) behind.
    Also, a shoulder bag with a rock climbing clip hooked to your pants loop to avoid side to side and forward play works well too! Not knocking the new "tactical" products on the market, they work great, but essentially all are just bags with fancier forms of retention around the openings and attachment methods. I personally go for lot-tech and just as proven dump pouch and magazine carrier methods so I can put more money towards ammo. Thats not to say I cheap out on my gear, I go with rugged designs that work just as well but at half the cost. Just my .02¢ I'm a fan if everything though really! Go with what works for you!
     
  9. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

    Messages:
    4,652
    Likes Received:
    5,753
    Agreed, never leave your mag(s) behind.
    Also, a shoulder bag with a rock climbing clip hooked to your pants loop to avoid side to side and forward play works well too! Not knocking the new "tactical" products on the market, they work great, but essentially all are just bags with fancier forms of retention around the openings and attachment methods. I personally go for lot-tech and just as proven dump pouch and magazine carrier methods so I can put more money towards ammo. Thats not to say I cheap out on my gear, I go with rugged designs that work just as well but at half the cost. Just my .02¢ I'm a fan if everything though really! Go with what works for you!
     
  10. aslinged

    aslinged Southern Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    889
    Likes Received:
    251
    Tuck your shirt in, drop it down there, put it back in the rig/vest/pouch when you get a chance. Done.
     
  11. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    Nice thing about the Maxpedition dump pouch is it's rolled up into a small roll on your belt until you need it..
     
  12. powersbj

    powersbj Seattle Area Active Member

    Messages:
    479
    Likes Received:
    149
    Run out of mags in your first month or two??? If someone is getting into that many firefights and they are not the aggressor they are seriously doing it wrong.
     
  13. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    Another thing is IF you survive actual firefights and win, you will probably have lots of capture items
     
  14. billstaf

    billstaf Portland, Oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    190
    Likes Received:
    165
    I use Magpul Pmags for my AR. Ain't no way I'm dropping that mag. I have pockets. I'll use them.

    In a SHTF scenario Pmags will be worth their weight in gold. I'll use he mags from my dead enemies for barter.
     
  15. Garg

    Garg east of portland metro Hold my beer..... watch this Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    1,188
    Likes Received:
    1,002
    I don't know for sure, but, it seems like pretty simple math to me. No mags, all the ammo in the world is pretty much useless.
     
  16. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    6,279
    Likes Received:
    6,918
    We had this topic last year when someone mentioned using 550 cord to tie a mag to the AR or body so it would not be lost,,,bad juujuu in the real world.
    To me $53 for a maxpedition dump pouch is just way too much, so is an Eagle canteen pouch for $50.
    A 762 SAW pouch will do the job on a Molle rig and nearly any mil. gas mask or GP bag will work on an ALICE rig. make dump pouches out of the uppers of snow boots (they have draw strings at the top) with a piece of 2" webing riveted in place as a belt loop
     
  17. Steve06

    Steve06 Oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    61
    This was the Newhall Incident where two California Highway Patrol officers were killed in a shoot out. The killer shot them while they were picking up brass during the shootout.

     
  18. twoclones

    twoclones Tri-Cities, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,129
    Likes Received:
    180
    In my Utah concealed carry class the instructor told of this incident and really stressed training like you'll fight.
     
  19. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    4,849
    It has been a long time, you may be right