Shootings at Muhammad event.....Are we prepared for the fight at home?

[mjbskwim]

https://gma.yahoo.com/official-one-texas-shooting-suspects-ided-111112719--abc-news-topstories.html

So there was a shooting at the "Draw the Prophet" event in Texas. There has been speculation that IS has been in Mexico and crossing the border down there.
Are 'we' as citizens ready to take on this challenge? Mentally?
I mean if they are here and are going to start attacks like they did in France,will the public be up for the retaliation that will,hopefully come? Will the general public villinize CCW holders for defending them?
Will they understand that that is the only way that IS will be defeated on our soil?
I'm sure most on here don't think the Gubment will be ready or accept that they could actually infiltrate our society. Or maybe the government doesn't want to tell us?

Do you think this may be the start of something bigger to come to our soil?

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[Gator Monroe]

Militias have been training ( over 3 years for me) , Bigger is on deck for Summer.

 

[Just Jim]

How could you ever be worried when you have mister hope and change leading the way?

 

[IronMonster]

Sounds like the attacker was from Phoenix, Him and his room mate. He has been on the "no fly" list for some time and had a previous terrorism criminal run in.

Sounds like he posted his intent to do some damage on Twitter as well.

 

[Just Jim]

Well in their mind they got their virgins.... Texans will probably get some more of them laid should the opportunity present itself.

 

[oknow]

How could you ever be worried when you have mister hope and change leading the way?

that is why we are worried.

 

[Just Jim]

that is why we are worried.

He is bringing them here by the thousands but pc will keep everyone quiet about it. PC is the cancer that killed America.

 

[Gator Monroe]

He is bringing them here by the thousands but pc will keep everyone quiet about it. PC is the cancer that killed America.

That's just one State (Thousands) lol

 

[erudne]

The Term Political Correctness was coined by....Marxists in the early days of the USSR

As to Garland I just have to wonder if those AKs were provided by Holder through Fast and Furious
I have to wonder if these two possibly three Islamies were down in MX recently to receive training.
I have to wonder where DHS and FBI were since this group seems to have twittered their butts off and one was a convicted terrorist wannabe and who that Judge was who let him slide, despite a conviction?
As to my predictions of the near future;
Leftists including SEIU, AFL-CIO thugs, Democrats, as well as Social Justice Warriors of all stripes will merge with standing outlaw gangs, plus Muslims plus whack-a-doodles, perverts of all stripes to attack Democrat controlled cities and states where they will run rampant over local LEs as a prelude to Martial Law, the secession of some eastern state followed by Traditionalist states letting Obama declare the US Constitution void and invite foreign governments to attack the US all aided by several billionaire Messianic Narcissists
This is the short version as I have a headache


PS Portland is an Open City for illegals and 'refugees' they are there in the thousands, heck the state is run by a Marxist Progressive
Speaking of which both Clinton and Obola are tied to this shooting!
Obama Potential Supreme Court Nominee Let Off Cartoon Gunman Because She Wasn't Sure What "Jihad" Meant
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dg...nman-because-she-wasnt-sure-what-jihad-meant/

 

[mjbskwim]

The Term Political Correctness was coined by....Marxists in the early days of the USSR

As to Garland I just have to wonder if those AKs were provided by Holder through Fast and Furious
I have to wonder if these two possibly three Islamies were down in MX recently to receive training.
I have to wonder where DHS and FBI were since this group seems to have twittered their butts off and one was a convicted terrorist wannabe and who that Judge was who let him slide, despite a conviction?
As to my predictions of the near future;
Leftists including SEIU, AFL-CIO thugs, Democrats, as well as Social Justice Warriors of all stripes will merge with standing outlaw gangs, plus Muslims plus whack-a-doodles, perverts of all stripes to attack Democrat controlled cities and states where they will run rampant over local LEs as a prelude to Martial Law, the secession of some eastern state followed by Traditionalist states letting Obama declare the US Constitution void and invite foreign governments to attack the US all aided by several billionaire Messianic Narcissists
This is the short version as I have a headache
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PS Portland is an Open City for illegals and 'refugees' they are there in the thousands, heck the state is run by a Marxist Progressive
Speaking of which both Clinton and Obola are tied to this shooting!
Obama Potential Supreme Court Nominee Let Off Cartoon Gunman Because She Wasn't Sure What "Jihad" Meant
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dg...nman-because-she-wasnt-sure-what-jihad-meant/

It just kills me how there isn't any "6 degrees of separation" between Obuma and much of anything bad in this country.
He is 1-2 degrees away from it all.If the person he appointed didn't do it,they hired the person who did!

 

[coyote223]

I'm sure the corrupt DOJ will investigate the event organizers and cops, to see if they violated the terrorists civil rights,,,

 

[novamind]

This Cartoon get together sounds like a move to flush the terrorist out and make them active to me.

 

[Certaindeaf]

This Cartoon get together sounds like a move to flush the terrorist out and make them active to me.

I think you spelled dead wrong.

 

[erudne]

BTW one of those AKs seems to be a High Point

 

[erudne]

Up date one gun was a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 and the other may be a 22LR AR-15 look alike

 

[U201491]

Up date one gun was a Kel-Tec Sub 2000 and the other may be a 22LR AR-15 look alike

HE PUSHED FORWARD: Brave Garland Police Officer Advanced As He Brought Down Garland Terrorists(Pics)
<broken link removed> | 5-5-2015 | Bob Owens

Posted on ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2015‎ ‎8‎:‎50‎:‎33‎ ‎PM by servo1969

More details are beginning to emerge about the incompetent Islamic terrorist attack on a free speech event held by the American Freedom Defense Initiative (AFDI) in Garland, Texas Sunday. Bearing Arms readers have asked for more details about how the actual shooting went down, and about the Garland police officer who used his duty sidearm to defeat two attackers armed with rifles within 15 seconds.
Please keep in mind that we don't have all the details about the attack, the individual officer's response, or the exact steps law enforcement took once the attack began, and that even if we had that information, we would withhold such details which may be useful for any other would-be terrorists attempting future attacks.
That said, we will provide analysis of some key pieces of publicly available information.
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At the point of the attack, the two suspects apparently drove up and opened fire upon an unarmed security guard who was accompanied by a 60-year-old Garland police officer. The unarmed guard was struck the volley of gunfire. The veteran Garland officer then drew his duty-issue Glock pistol and opened fire on the suspects.
The officer killed one terrorist and wounded the other in his initial volley of return fire. Witnesses claim there was a brief pause, and then the officer fire two more shots to kill the still-moving terrorist as he appears to be reaching for a backpack. The entire event lasted 15 seconds, with heavily-armed Garland SWAT converging on the scene immediately afterward.
We're not going to mention any more about the officer who took out these terrorists, only that to give an idea of his approximate position in relation to the terrorists as he engaged them.

The evidence markers at the bottom of the photo above show us a remarkable story, as they denote the final locations of the shell casings ejected from the officer's Glock duty pistol. While every pistol is different from another in its ejection pattern, and the movement of the officer and the cant of his gun precludes us from knowing exactly where he was, there, is a distinct trial of shells showing that the officer was moving forward from the bottom left of the photo above towards the terrorists at the rear of the vehicle. He appears to have opened fire from 20 yards away, and fired at least a dozen shots by the time he reached an area near the traffic cones, roughly 7-10 yards from where the terrorists died.
Second photo taken from the opposite angle (below) seems to confirm this determined officer's advance on the terrorists while firing.
Note: the damage to the vehicle driven by the terrorists was from controlled demolitions from EOD units ensuring that the car was not a VBIED (vehicle-borne improvised explosive device).

There seems to be a great deal of skepticism regarding whether or not the suspects were wearing body armor and whether they were armed with "automatic weapons" or "assault rifles" or something else entirely. Other photos from the crime scene suggest answers to those questions as well.

In the image above, we have drawn an orange rectangle around what appears to be blood-drenched halves of a soft body armor carrier worn by one of the terrorists. Most people don't seem to grasp that there are multiple grades of soft body armor, that these materials degrade over time, and that the armor panels themselves do not often cover the entire torso, leaving gaps under the arms, below the ribs, and at the neck.
We simply don't know if the officer's bullets compromised the armor or went around the armor panels, but it is quite clear that there was soft body armor worn by at least one of the terrorists, and that it did not prevent him from being quickly taken out of of the fight.
Did the terrorists have "automatic weapons" as some mainstream media outlets initially claimed?
The media claim of "automatic weapons" or "machine guns" is always to be discounted until positively affirmed beyond the shadow of a doubt by firearms experts (not law enforcement public information officers), simply based on how difficult it is to obtain automatic weapons in the United States.

What we do have is two separate images that appear to show long guns recovered at the scene. We've taken part of the image above and flipped it vertically below in an effort to better determine what we're looking at.


It isn't anything we immediately recognize, though we can say for certain that it doesn't appear to be any centerfire variant or an AR-15 or AKM. While the photo we have to work with is frankly horrible, our best guess is that The firearm we're looking at is a most likely <broken link removed> , a popular and inexpensive pistol caliber carbine shown below.

Partially obscured behind evidence marker 34 is what appears to be a firearm with an AR-15-type front sight post, but the quality of the image and amount of the gun covered by the evidence marker make it impossible to tell what we're really looking at.
Is this a legitimate centerfire AR-15? Is this a rimfire copy? Is this an airgun, designed to look enough like an AR-15 to win a jihadi his martyrdom?
Frankly, I'm tempted to think that we're looking at a "faux-15″ martyrdom special or a .22 clone, considering we've not be able to track down credible reports of the distinctively different reports of a centerfire rifle fire, and the confirmed Glock pistol-fire from the Garland officer.

We're not ruling out the possibility that this was a centerfire AR-15 recovered at the scene, we're simply noting that there wasn't much evidence suggesting it was able to be brought into play by the terrorists.
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No matter how you break down the details, this was an incredible display of bravery and marksmanship by this 30+ year veteran of the Garland Police Department, who not only resisted the natural urge to create distance between yourself and rifle-armed assailants, but who appears to have done precisely the opposite, and who advanced while firing accurately, bringing the attack to a swift conclusion without a single additional casualty once he brought his weapon to bear.
Determined people with good training and a decent handgun can indeed defeat the most zealous fanatic.
Get out there and train folks. Maybe one day it will be your turn to be the one standing on the line defending liberty from savagery.
Update: We'd like to thank Kaitian for finding a higher resolution image of the SUB-2000 used in the attack, which we've swapped out in the story above.

 

[erudne]

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

<broken link removed>
A grim online warning from a self-described American jihadist said Sunday's terror attack in Texas was the work of ISIS and that the terrorist group has scores of "trained soldiers" positioned in 15 states, awaiting orders to carry out more operations.

 

[erudne]

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[Gator Monroe]

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