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shooting slugs and buckshot

Discussion in 'Rifle Discussion' started by kbuc, Apr 30, 2009.

  1. kbuc

    kbuc Oregon Member

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    Is it ok to shoot rifled slugs out of a regular shotgun barrel?
    What choke should be used for slugs and buckshot?
     
  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Yes, that's what rifled slugs are designed for, but your barrel must not have any sort of choke design integrated into it, either removable or not. Even if you remove your choke I would advise against slugs due to the fact that it can damage the threading, unless you have a barrel with inset threading specifically for this purpose (benelli comes to mind)
     
  3. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    ^^^ I disagree with the chokes.

    If you have a fixed choke barrel, lead slugs are fine through everything up to a mod or IC choke. The lead just squeezes down a bit (it's pretty soft).

    If you have a barrel with removable chokes, NEVER shoot anything without a choke in it. It WILL screw up the internal threads. That said, same advice as above.

    Typically I've seen best performance with an open or IC choke on slugs. The less squeezing the less deformation and better accuracy.

    Buckshot, you can typically shoot lead buck through any choke except for tighter than full.


    Otherwise, "rifled slugs" are for smoothbore barrels (the rifling is on the slug rather than the barrel) while "sabot slugs" are for rifled barrels.
     
  4. kbuc

    kbuc Oregon Member

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    So the barrel that came with my gun (28" with screw in chokes) would not work.
    I need to get either a "smooth cylinder bore" or a rifled barrel?
     
  5. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    You may be safe to shoot slugs through fixed chokes, I've never seen anyone crack a barrel doing it, but I know that all manufactures strongly advise against it. It might be due to pressure buildup when the slug starts getting "squished".

    According to benelli, they designed their choke threads on the M4 to be able to run slugs without the choke, but I don't know if any other manufactures have adopted this type of threading.



    Yep, a smooth non screw in choke barrel is what you want. Idk if there would be any benefit of running rifled slugs in a rifled barrel. If you are using it for hunting, then get a rifled barrel and use saboted slugs, and if you're using it for defense, get a 18.5" smooth and use rifled slugs.
     
  6. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    They do it in Sporting Clays tournaments all the time with their $10,000 Kreighoffs.

    I used to do it on occasion with my SC shotty. Didn't do anything to the threads.

    It was only 4-6 rounds per week though.
     
  7. ajf1

    ajf1 beaverton Member

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    Growing up in a statew where rifle hunt for deer is not allowed, I have used plenty of slugs through my 11-87 with the improved cycllider choke. Now my shotgun has the screw in chokes and I have not had any problems when switching out the chokes after shooting a few slugs and going back to bird chokes. Please note that I have not shot over a hundred slugs throught it, never needed to.
     
  8. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    That would be birdshot. You start squirting lead slugs through it, it tends to fill in the threads.
     
  9. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    Really? Remington recommends you use an IC choke with slugs. http://tinyurl.com/cogzzf

    http://tinyurl.com/cmhjlc

     
  10. NoAim

    NoAim Hillsboro, OR Active Member

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    It will work.
     
  11. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    Hmm, maybe it must be manuals that advise against using slugs with full chokes, I just know I saw it in a manual somewhere, most likely a mossberg...

    You're probably right though, I've just avoided doing it because I've been advised against it, but then again, I may have heard it from the wrong people.
     
  12. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    Full chokes are definitely ill-advised, modified or IC are fine, screw in or not.

    I, too, grew up in a shotgun-slug area - we perfected it to an art form. Before the rifled barrel era, I used a Wingmaster with a 28" barrel and a modified choke. Lots of deer fell to that combination.

    I finally ended up with an Ithaca Model 37 "Deerslayer" that had a much shorter rifled barrel. That and newer slugs was an awesome combination. Nothing like an ounce of lead to have "knockdown power".

    Bob
     
  13. the4thshake

    the4thshake Portland Active Member

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    I think one of the best chokes out there for buckshot is the Pattermaster. Nice tight patterns at 40 yards.
     
  14. RallySoob

    RallySoob Salem, OR Active Member

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    I'm shooting Slugs out of my Remington 870 with 26" bbl using a Remington Mod Choke. No problems.