Serial Number in Pictures

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by SLO, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. SLO

    SLO
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    Random question: why do people block out all of or part of serial numbers in pictures they post of a firearm?
     
  2. JAFO

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    Random answer in the form of a question: Do you think there are bad or dishonest people in the world?
     
  3. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke
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    OK, I'll play your game. What would these bad people do with a serial number from a firearm that they have no access to, and don't have a location or owner's name for?
     
  4. moose

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    I could have fun reporting you stole it from me. I even have the serial number.
     
  5. Ligito

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    It could be used by someone to deceive another, using it to make a sale and improve their income.
     
  6. iamme

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    So any gun you've seen in a gun case you could do the same thing 6 months down the road. or Oh no cop shows up you have all your info and moose goes to jail for filing a false report. What am I missing?

    And how in the heck could it deceive someone to make a sale????
     
  7. davemata

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    a lot, apparently.
     
  8. HuckFin

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    They may not know the history of the gun....Could have been stolen at one time?
     
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  9. mattdomes

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    I don't black out mine when I sell anymore...

    ..and if I am going to buy a gun from a non-dealer I always call the S/N in to check if it is stolen.
     
  10. vertical ascent

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    I am all for having a searchable database on-line or a phone number where a non FFL can readily check or call a weapon's serial number whether if it is lost, stolen or not.
     
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  11. Mark W.

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    Oregon does. We also allow private citizens to do BGC on buyers.
     
  12. davemata

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    Whoa? Really?! What kind of information do you need to run that BGC?
     
  13. greedy bastards

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    I'm confused. Is a serial # of a gun more dangerous or the social security # and ODL# of the buyer?
     
  14. hermannr

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    No, you cannot do a BGC, but you can do a SN check
     
  15. hermannr

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    there have been unethical people in the past that have reported a particular gun stolen, that was not theirs, yes, it has happened.
     
  16. hoody

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    Yup. They want to legislate UBC when they can't even provide easy, voluntary non-FFL BGCs? Going from Not Possible to Mandatory seems to skip right over the Optional option.

    Let's talk about the pros and cons of Optional BGCs for private sales.

    "Easy" probably means one website visit, mobile, or fax exchange. Is this ID real and is the person prohibited? Sounds so simple.

    If we want an optional system to be used, it needs to be safe and easy. Don't use the system against the voluntary users, and folks will use it.

    How about a temporary use of photo of the buyer's photo ID instead of ink fingerprints and signatures in a FFL's 20-year book?

    Data privacy frightens me, must confess.
     
  17. PiratePast40

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    Not only can you perform a background check, it's required for a private sale at a gun show. ORS 166.434.

    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html
     
  18. Hook686

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    If you, or the shop you bought it from have the records I do not see a problem, except for the person filing a false police report. I think it comes down to an unreasonable fear that some rationalize as reasonable. Different strokes for different folks. If it bothers you, block it. If it does not ... ?
     
  19. greedy bastards

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    I friend told me he seen a blue form 4473 at the gun show for non ffl.
    Is it blue ? ORS 166.434
     
  20. DoubleTapDrew

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    I've heard this before but are there any doumented cases of it? Seems kind of risky since it's a crime to file a false police report just to harass a gun owner.
     

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