Quantcast
  1. Sign up now and join over 35,000 northwest gun owners. It's quick, easy, and 100% free!

Serial Number in Pictures

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by SLO, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. SLO

    SLO Portland Member

    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    19
    Random question: why do people block out all of or part of serial numbers in pictures they post of a firearm?
     
  2. JAFO

    JAFO OR, USA Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

    Messages:
    556
    Likes Received:
    148
    Random answer in the form of a question: Do you think there are bad or dishonest people in the world?
     
  3. ZigZagZeke

    ZigZagZeke Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter 2015 Volunteer

    Messages:
    2,697
    Likes Received:
    3,511
    OK, I'll play your game. What would these bad people do with a serial number from a firearm that they have no access to, and don't have a location or owner's name for?
     
  4. moose

    moose northwet coast Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,159
    Likes Received:
    348
    I could have fun reporting you stole it from me. I even have the serial number.
     
  5. Ligito

    Ligito Oregon Active Member

    Messages:
    484
    Likes Received:
    136
    It could be used by someone to deceive another, using it to make a sale and improve their income.
     
  6. iamme

    iamme Lane County Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,128
    Likes Received:
    351
    So any gun you've seen in a gun case you could do the same thing 6 months down the road. or Oh no cop shows up you have all your info and moose goes to jail for filing a false report. What am I missing?

    And how in the heck could it deceive someone to make a sale????
     
  7. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,066
    Likes Received:
    410
    a lot, apparently.
     
  8. HuckFin

    HuckFin mt rainier Active Member

    Messages:
    105
    Likes Received:
    28
    They may not know the history of the gun....Could have been stolen at one time?
     
    Silver Hand and (deleted member) like this.
  9. mattdomes

    mattdomes Newberg Active Member

    Messages:
    499
    Likes Received:
    120
    I don't black out mine when I sell anymore...

    ..and if I am going to buy a gun from a non-dealer I always call the S/N in to check if it is stolen.
     
  10. vertical ascent

    vertical ascent Vancouver Active Member

    Messages:
    334
    Likes Received:
    94
    I am all for having a searchable database on-line or a phone number where a non FFL can readily check or call a weapon's serial number whether if it is lost, stolen or not.
     
    NOMOREBS and (deleted member) like this.
  11. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

    Messages:
    5,768
    Likes Received:
    4,941
    Oregon does. We also allow private citizens to do BGC on buyers.
     
  12. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,066
    Likes Received:
    410
    Whoa? Really?! What kind of information do you need to run that BGC?
     
  13. greedy bastards

    greedy bastards Multnomah Village New Member

    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    18
    I'm confused. Is a serial # of a gun more dangerous or the social security # and ODL# of the buyer?
     
  14. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,830
    Likes Received:
    871
    No, you cannot do a BGC, but you can do a SN check
     
  15. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,830
    Likes Received:
    871
    there have been unethical people in the past that have reported a particular gun stolen, that was not theirs, yes, it has happened.
     
  16. hoody

    hoody Tigard/Beaverton area Active Member

    Messages:
    152
    Likes Received:
    29
    Yup. They want to legislate UBC when they can't even provide easy, voluntary non-FFL BGCs? Going from Not Possible to Mandatory seems to skip right over the Optional option.

    Let's talk about the pros and cons of Optional BGCs for private sales.

    "Easy" probably means one website visit, mobile, or fax exchange. Is this ID real and is the person prohibited? Sounds so simple.

    If we want an optional system to be used, it needs to be safe and easy. Don't use the system against the voluntary users, and folks will use it.

    How about a temporary use of photo of the buyer's photo ID instead of ink fingerprints and signatures in a FFL's 20-year book?

    Data privacy frightens me, must confess.
     
  17. PiratePast40

    PiratePast40 Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,094
    Likes Received:
    2,073
    Not only can you perform a background check, it's required for a private sale at a gun show. ORS 166.434.

    http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/166.html
     
  18. Hook686

    Hook686 Northern California Active Member

    Messages:
    660
    Likes Received:
    226
    If you, or the shop you bought it from have the records I do not see a problem, except for the person filing a false police report. I think it comes down to an unreasonable fear that some rationalize as reasonable. Different strokes for different folks. If it bothers you, block it. If it does not ... ?
     
  19. greedy bastards

    greedy bastards Multnomah Village New Member

    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    18
    I friend told me he seen a blue form 4473 at the gun show for non ffl.
    Is it blue ? ORS 166.434
     
  20. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,078
    Likes Received:
    377
    I've heard this before but are there any doumented cases of it? Seems kind of risky since it's a crime to file a false police report just to harass a gun owner.