Discussion in 'Archived - Oregon Firearms Academy' started by OFADAN, Dec 29, 2013.
The Red Shirts are looking forward seeing you train at OFA in 2014!
The 2014 Schedule is posted - this is our 17th year in business! Not very many other schools/instructors can make this claim. We're not a gun shop and/or gunsmith who also does training. Training is our core and sole business!
The phone is busy and early enrollment in classes is brisk with students traveling from all across the USA to train with us. Some coming down from Alaska and from as far away as New York. Therefore, if you've thought about training or considered training with OFA then I'd strongly suggest you call or email the office to get started. You do not need to pay at this time. You just need to get your name on the roster and then our Office Manager will contact you a few months prior to the class to collect payment.
Oregon Firearms Academy LLC
Phone: 541-451-5532 (please leave a message if we're on the phone or stepped away to go to the PO - we do return calls!)
I'd love to do this...before I'm too old! Saving my nickels and dimes!
I like what you all do but I got to ask if your ammo count requirements are hurting business......considering ammo has been so hard to get ahold of and got spendy as well.
I am a reloader and its got me though all the shortage , but I see you don't allow reloads.....
No, thankfully ammo has not hurt our business. Generally most of our courses are full with waiting lists. We draw students from all 50 states and have been in business for the last 17 years so we're fairly well recognized and established nationwide. If one person can't get ammo - the next person on the wait list can. Or if someone will call the office in advance one of us will help them find the ammo at the lowest price possible. However, most of our students are planning their training out in advance so they anticipate what they need and prepare. The ammo situation has impacted everyone but has not hurt us.
Here is the deal with ammo and OFA courses...
Above else – Safety comes first. Safety of our students and staff is paramount. Talk to any of our Alumni and this is usually one of the first things they mention. To date we have an impeccable safety record and we’d like to keep it that way. And because of the nature of self-defense we often have to be in close proximity to one another. Our staff even has to get close to you in order coach and direct. So to mitigate our exposure we’ve established the ammo guidelines listed below:
1. The ammo listed in our courses is only a recommendation - not a requirement. You can bring more ammo or you can bring less it is all up to you - you're in the driver’s seat.
2. The ammo you bring - you are in charge of it. If a given drill calls for 6 rounds and you want to shoot 10 you can...if you want to shoot 2 you can...if you want to practice the drill dry fire - yup, you can!
3. Factory new or commercially remanufactured ammo is fine to use. Granted some could argue even this ammo can fail or not function but chances are considerably less. Most manufacturers have a quality process and control measures in place. They have checks in their system and minimum standards. Many have a risk and safety departments. And if there is a problem most will stand behind their products.
4. Hobby reloads we strongly discourage and we'd prefer you use those for your personal training/range time which is what I do (I've been reloading over 43 years). The problem with hobby reloads are:
A. If you manufacturer/reload the ammo - then you're 100% liable for it. If your gun/ammo has a catastrophic failure (or the guy next to you in the class does) and someone gets hurt...well you own it! (or the person next to you owns it) There is no company insurance to fall back on to cover injuries, damage etc...because you are "the company."
B. You may be really dialed in and squared away as a reloader...but out of 500 to 1200 students coming through the Academy a year...we have no way to screen who is and isn't a squared away reloader...so what happens if some guy next to you has double charge loads, his/her bullets are seated too deep, has a weak case from multiple reloads, or is running them too hot relative to the engineering of the firearm or has a squib and then shoots a follow-up round right behind the squib and the gun comes apart and sends shards of metal in the side of your face? Do you/I/we want to be shooting next to someone who may not be a careful or competent reloader?
I’ll never forget the time in a two-day class when a guy came up to me and said “why are my spent primers so flat like this? And why am I occasional having cases blow out here at the web?” He is a reloader and yet didn't know the signs of excessive pressure or how to screen out over-worked case webs?
C. We’ve had individuals who have “reloaded” their entire life and “have never had a problem” show up to class and “have problems!” Lots of problems. Then they have to scramble to find rounds that do work. So there is the reliability and functionality factor that we just cannot control. You’d think this would not be an issue – but unfortunately it is. We’ve had people sitting out of a class on the sidelines because they had issues and got tired of buying, borrowing, or receiving ammo handouts from other.
Oh the stories we have…if only we could share.
So here is the bottom line…you may not agree with our guidelines but at least you know why we do what we do. Attending a class(s) is an investment. It is a financial investment (tuition, gas, lunch, gear, lodging etc.), it is an investment of your time (before, during, and after class) and the class involves other people. So when my training partner has issues then it directly impacts others. (in upper level classes we start involving team/family/friend problem solving). Attending class is the one time you’ll want to seriously consider bringing your best to class so you get the most value out of your time and financial investment. This is the one time I, as an avid reloader, brings factory ammo.
If you’re serious about attending classes at OFA then give me a call at the OFA office and let’s see what we can do to find a solution.
Thanks for the reply, very professional !
They are very professional at O.F.A.. And safe. Hopefully you can train with them, and it will be your dollars well spent.
I have been there on the range with a student who did have some reloads O.F.A. staff didn't know about. At first, he experienced rounds that didn't go off. Then one that went boom. His gun no longer works and had to borrow a gun to finish. Luckily for the others on the range, his gun did not blow apart.
Safety first, and always. For every bodies sake. Makes for a very enjoyable training experience.
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