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SEATTLE - A rise in crime outside the King County courthouse has resulted in questions by the King County Council.

A group of councilmembers heard from police and judges Tuesday on how to address what's happening on Third Avenue.

Councilmember Pete Von Reichbauer said jurors are afraid to come to court.

"Lady Justice is under siege because jurors who are on these juries are saying 'I don't want to come'," Von Reichbauer told KOMO.

King County Superior Court Judge Sean O'Donnell, who is the county's chief criminal judge, said crime, loitering, panhandling and harassment outside the courthouse is the worst he's seen it in his 15 years of working inside the building.

O'Donnell said earlier this year a juror had to be coaxed into returning for deliberations after she was harassed.

"The juror was on recess for lunch and was chased down the street by someone on Third Avenue," O'Donnell said. "She had to get assistance from a security officer in another building."

According to the Seattle Police Department's Open Data Portal, officers responded to nearly 550 assault or threat reports in the 500 block of Third Avenue over the past year. They responded to 66 robberies and 78 drug-related calls as well.

West Precinct Commander Capt. Tom Mahaffey told the county council Tuesday that he and his officers hear people's frustrations, but their hands are tied by city policies regarding people who are homeless, drug addicted and/or mentally ill.

"It's not just a police issue, we're working with a lot of different city agencies," Mahaffey told the council.

Seattle police are quick to point out that of the 911 calls they respond to around the courthouse many are in response to people who are homeless or in mental crisis - especially at the Morrison Hotel, a shelter helping people who are severely mentally ill.

The neighborhood encompassing the courthouse, the King County Administration Building, Seattle City Hall, Seattle Police Headquarters and Seattle Municipal Court has long been home to people who are in need of help from the social service agencies located nearby. But with things seemingly getting worse, Von Reichbauer wonders if it's time for the downtown courthouse to pick up and move.

Von Reichbauer said he's been talking to developers about selling the courthouse building so it can be transformed into condos and mixed use retail. He would like to see a 50-story tower on the site of the current county administration building - it would be for King County government, as well as serve as a courthouse. He said it could be designed to make it safer for people coming and going.

"An innovative, renovated, new administration building and courthouse that would have an entrance that would, hopefully, protect people," he said.
 
Oh lookie....the same old tired and true manipulation of the people.

Create or allow a crisis to exist
Ride in on the white horse with a solution (at least in paper)

Then make millions off the problem you and your co-conspirators allowed to happen.

"Von Reichbauer said he's been talking to developers about selling the courthouse building so it can be transformed into condos and mixed use retail"

^^^And the original homeless/insanity/crime problem will majiklee disappear and the new upscale tennants and shoppers will not have any issues as now do the 'jurors'

 
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West Precinct Commander Capt. Tom Mahaffey told the county council Tuesday that he and his officers hear people's frustrations, but their hands are tied by city policies regarding people who are homeless, drug addicted and/or mentally ill.

That's your whole problem right there. City policies increase the issue. They care more about the homeless and drug addicts than they do about upright, productive, law abiding citizens.
 
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Selling it to a developer and building a new courthouse will solve the problem.... o_O
Nothing says "feel good" like a shiny new building for the government to occupy.....

And 50 stories to boot!!!
I'll bet a dollar to a donut that this guy is somehow affiliated with the developers he's talkin to. I just do not see them doing anything without having ill gotten gains attached. Think pork.
 
Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, blame guns, remove guns.

Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, Blame the building, remove building.

Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, Blame the victims, punish the taxpayer.

Rinse, lather, repeat.
 
Maybe allow people to Fricken CCW in court so they are not helpless on the way in!
They are supposed to provide secure storage for your weapon at the door. I always consider the court house and sheriff's office a high-threat area since most of the people visiting will have previously demonstrated their lack of self control.
 
Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, blame guns, remove guns.

Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, Blame the building, remove building.

Crazy people and criminals causing trouble....
....Politicians profit, Blame the victims, punish the taxpayer.

Rinse, lather, repeat.

I'm going to use this one over and over and over again. I'm going to say this so much that it is going to become the truth and people will have to believe it, because IT IS true!!!
 
Selling it to a developer and building a new courthouse will solve the problem.... o_O
Nothing says "feel good" like a shiny new building for the government to occupy.....
Not to mention they will need shoot for LEED Platinum and use recycled 'green' materials at 7x the cost
 
NOPE... Hatin it!!!:D

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Oh lookie....the same old tired and true manipulation of the people.

Create or allow a crisis to exist
Ride in on the white horse with a solution (at least in paper)

Then make millions off the problem you and your co-conspirators allowed to happen.

"Von Reichbauer said he's been talking to developers about selling the courthouse building so it can be transformed into condos and mixed use retail"

^^^And the original homeless/insanity/crime problem will majiklee disappear and the new upscale tennants and shoppers will not have any issues as now do the 'jurors'



This exactly. Doesn't solve the problem- just shifts it to someone else.
 

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