Oregon Second Amendment Preservation Ordinance (SAPO)

[SOrez]

Second Amendment Preservation Ordinance

I read that 3 counties already have it and people in Jackson County are trying to get the Jackson County Commissioners to hold a hearing on it.

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[Howard1955]

I came across this on Facebook today, and don't know anything more about it aside from what it says.

Is there an attorney on this forum that will have a look at the Columbia County document, and tell us if this is doable on a county-by-county basis?

The document looks straightforward and reasonable to my layman's eyes.

What say you all? How about putting forward our own ballot initiative, modeled on this one from Columbia County?

http://www.oregonfirearms.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/SAPO-.pdf

 

[Howard1955]

Here's another county that's talking about a Second Amendment Protection Ordinance:


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[DuneHopper]

Just sent these to our Commissioners

 

[ma96782]

How about a Gun Free Zone Liability Act?

Basically, "If you create a make-believe gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes." This one is from Arizona.

AN ACT AMENDING TITLE 13, CHAPTER 31, ARIZONA REVISED STATUTES BY ADDING A NEW SECTION.
Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:
Section 1. Title 13, Chapter 31, Arizona Revised Statutes, is amended by
adding new section 13-3119:

A.R.S. §13-3119. Gun-Free-Zone Liability.

A. Any person, organization or entity, or any agency of government that creates a gun-free zone shall be liable for damages resulting from criminal conduct that occurs against an individual in such gun-free zone, if a reasonable person would believe that possession of a firearm could have helped the individual defend against such conduct. In the event the conduct is a result of a terrorist attack as federally defined, or adversely affects a disabled person, a person who is a member of a minority as federally defined, a senior citizen or a child under 16 years of age, treble damages shall apply.

B. For the purposes of this section, criminal conduct shall include offenses specified under this title in Chapter 11 (Homicide), Chapter 12 (Assault and Related Offenses), Chapter 13 (Kidnapping), Chapter 14 (Sexual Offenses), Chapter 15 (Criminal Trespass and Burglary), Chapter 17 (Arson), Chapter 19 (Robbery), Chapter 25 (Escape and Related Offenses), Chapter 29 (Offenses Against Public Order) and Chapter 36 (Family Offenses).

C. For the purposes of this section, the term "gun-free zone" shall mean any building, place, area or curtilage that is open to the public, or in or upon any public conveyance, where a person's right or ability to keep arms or to bear arms is infringed, restricted or diminished in any way by statute, policy, rule, regulation, ordinance, utterance or posted signs.

Taken from: gunlaws.com - Gun Free Zone Bill and Review

The liberals introduce anti-gun bills every year. Year after year..... A lot of the bills don't have a snowball's chance in hell. But, they can dream and besides, they don't really have to pass. Because, the bills have the affect of wearing gun owners down.

So, isn't it time to strike back? Rrrrright.....use their methods, against them. And, if it does pass.....well, well, what a game changer.

Aloha, Mark

 

[ma96782]

Or maybe follow Kennesaw, GA?

Taken from Wikipedia.

Kennesaw is noted for its unique firearms legislation in response to Morton Grove, Illinois' law mandating gun prohibition. In 1982 the city passed an ordinance [Sec 34-21]:[21]

(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.

Aloha, Mark

 

[JavaDude]

Here is a post form Giffords' gun control FB page. I just wanted to make it known that they are already aware (on a national scale) of our efforts to make these protection ordinances happen. Let's get these laws passed ASAP.


www.cooscountywatchdog.com/blog/thirty-two-counties-contemplating-the-second-amendment-preservation-ordinance


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April 28 at 8:57am ·
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Learn about the progress that states around the country have made since Parkland:


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Graham Rankin Unfortunately, some counties in Oregon are trying to pass referendums so the sheriff can decide if he thinks a state law violates the 2nd amendment, he can ignore it.
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Bill Minnick More authoritarian power is exactly what this state doesn't need.The ammosexuals are in a panic over their outdated and destructive second amendment and they will ply the simple minded any way they can to keep that dangerous piece of folly alive and well.
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Rich Kathy Host A 'Sheriff' is an 'elected' official. Get my drift ?
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Graham Rankin Yep, he wants to keep his ammosexual constituents happy.
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Pat Burns The courts will throw those laws out.
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Dennis McBreen The matter of states nullifying Federal laws was settled at the Appomattox Court house in 1865.
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Robert Kolbe OPPOSE CONCEALED CARRY of HANDGUNS.
This is what the NRA wants. $$$
They're trying to scare women too. $$$
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Heres Jimmy Nobody is trying to scare women. The NRA and their members back a women's rights to protect themselves.
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Lynn Gallup It isn't the NRA who are scaring women, its the rapists & abusers.
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Carol Sosa I am a woman, stupidity terrifies me!
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Robert Kolbe Heres Jimmy It's how they market guns to women.
Go to the NRA website. They're dropping members.
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[Ura-Ki]

Keep pushing, and sooner or later were going to push back, and remember, were the ones with the guns! Folks are getting pretty bold and are pushing the anti agenda harder and harder each day, sooner or later this will go too far and were going to be in a real fight! That' Not good, it' not what we gun owners ever wanted, but it's going to get very intersting come November, I only hope the good people our vote the snowflakes and SJWs and the antis, or were in for a long uphill fight!

 

[guido1161]

There are three things you can do with a bear; you can leave the bear alone, you can poke the bear or you can kill the bear.

If the bear isn't doing anything to cause problems you leave the bear alone, or maybe you just don't like bears and you want to kill the bear, in that case you had best kill the bear and be done with it.

But if you keep poking the bear, the bear is going to get p!$$ed off and the person doing the poking will more than likely loose an eye.

It's all fun and games until someone looses an eye, then it's just funny.

 

[nammac]

There are three things you can do with a bear; you can leave the bear alone, you can poke the bear or you can kill the bear.

If the bear isn't doing anything to cause problems you leave the bear alone, or maybe you just don't like bears and you want to kill the bear, in that case you had best kill the bear and be done with it.

But if you keep poking the bear, the bear is going to get p!$$ed off and the person doing the poking will more than likely loose an eye.

It's all fun and games until someone looses an eye, then it's just funny.

See, following this logic...

They woke the bear with their bathroom gender confusion, and rewarmed Hillary... Once the bear was awake, the bear chose the Donald as its president...

Ever since, they've been poking the bear, refuse to let him go back to sleep... The bear is now sleep deprived and becoming agitated...

Me thinks they batter watch out for the bear, he's about to rear his head again...

 

[Diamondback]

How about a Gun Free Zone Liability Act?

Basically, "If you create a make-believe gun-free zone, you're liable for any harm it causes." This one is from Arizona.



Taken from: gunlaws.com - Gun Free Zone Bill and Review

The liberals introduce anti-gun bills every year. Year after year..... A lot of the bills don't have a snowball's chance in hell. But, they can dream and besides, they don't really have to pass. Because, the bills have the affect of wearing gun owners down.

So, isn't it time to strike back? Rrrrright.....use their methods, against them. And, if it does pass.....well, well, what a game changer.

Aloha, Mark

I'd like to take that one further: make them strictly liable.
Strict liability - Wikipedia
Pop-culture SL example: Keeping of dangerous animals is a Strict Liability standard, so even though rogue contractor Dennis Nedry was directly culpable for turning the fences in Jurassic Park off, InGen Corporation bears strict liability for Gennaro's death by their tyrannosaur, rather than just Nedry himself. Similarly, despite the idiocy of InGen CEO Peter Ludlow being the proximal cause, InGen as a corporate entity bears strict liability for every single chipped nail and dime of property-damage their tyrannosaur inflicted on the city of San Diego and its occupants.