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Seattle's mesh network (say hello to tracking)

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by ATCclears, Nov 12, 2013.

  1. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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  2. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    I've got an "untrackable" nokia 3210 that Ill sell ;)

    This entire article can be thwarted by one thing, turn off your wifi.
     
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  3. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Burn the mesh boxes.
     
  4. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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  5. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If your not committing a crime is this really a big deal?

    On a personal note when they start putting these cameras up in Silverton I'll be worried.

    And again I ask what should we do about this? What's the PLAN here guys?
     
  6. ATCclears

    ATCclears Seattle area, WA Well-Known Member

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    This is a slippery slope against privacy. Moreover, the government has already demonstrated that it can and will share data between agencies against you (e.g. IRS sharing taxpayer information if you had contributed to the Tea Party).

    Peter
     
  7. Sstrand

    Sstrand La Grande OR Well-Known Member

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    Mark
    That is VERY short-sighted . . . This is the people in power in the government you are talking about here.
    They are perfectly happy to eat you. "one-bite-at-a-time!"

    Visualize the run-up to Buchenwald and Auschwitz.
    Sheldon
     
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  8. Provincial

    Provincial Near Salem, OR Well-Known Member

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    First, there is no right to privacy in a public place. That is established law, and would have to be overturned by legislation or constitutional amendment. This is unlikely to happen.

    Second, monitoring of public places, like streets and sidewalks, is widespread already. Both government and private (think security cameras and Google Street View) networks already exist. Britain is an example of extensive monitoring in London, and probably most other urban areas.

    Third, just because the system exists, it isn't a threat unless the government is using it to aid improper acts. Providing evidence in trail for looters is appropriate. Tracking someones movements for a political purpose is not.

    Fourth, judging the appropriateness of a monitoring system should not be done by applying current technology. In the future, facial recognition and other tech applications may, in combination with cheap memory and advanced search tech, allow following the movements of many people the government decides are "dangerous." Smart systems are dangerous. Dumb ones require a lot of work to misuse.

    It is pretty easy to see a value to a system that can track the movements of a getaway car from a bank robbery. It is scary to think this same system could follow the movements of someone that is protesting the abuse of government power.
     
  9. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Incremental steps to the "1984" type of "pre-crime" society.
    NO !
    Let the grid region go broke and decay away. Go elsewhere.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
    And eat you they will.
    One piece at a time.
    IF TOLERATED ! ? Affected people's choice !
     
  11. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    OK Chicken Littles

    I agree NOW tell me what to do about it...........Otherwise the only possible effect of knowing this is going on is to depress people who can't do anything about it.
     
  12. chariot13

    chariot13 Near Eugene/Springfield Well-Known Member

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    Well I guess its a good thing that even the strongest spring won't compare to the resiliency that people have. Ever tried to depress a very strong spring too far? Yeah, its kind of a predictable result and judging by history (& current events), governments would have better luck with depressing springs, not people. Oh except those Arab made springs :grenade:
     
  13. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Avoid the area, spread the word and impact the businesses and revenue stream til they get sick of it and go spit on the city admins to get it the hell out of there.
    If they dont, just feel good you are not supporting any part of it.
     
  14. simon99

    simon99 Central Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If those things ever showed up in my town they just might receive a few 7.62 rounds.....

    Death from afar.
     
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    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube_share;nRnlRurTwFg]http://youtu.be/nRnlRurTwFg[/video]
     
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