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Seattle Times Editorial - What a clueless person

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by accessbob, Mar 16, 2012.

  1. accessbob

    accessbob Molalla, OR 2A Supporter

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    This is just another reactionary piece written by someone who is clueless and wants to legislate against stupidity.

    Nicole Brodeur | The tragic cost of gun carelessness | Seattle Times Newspaper

    I posted a comment there (I'll post here too) but of course it won't get through to the very dim Nicole Brodeur:

     
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  2. branson4020

    branson4020 Forest Grove, OR Active Member

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    Clearly Washington state needs to make it illegal to go out in the rain without a hat.
     
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  3. accessbob

    accessbob Molalla, OR 2A Supporter

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    Or make it necessary to have a keyboard lock on a computer or typewriter when in the presence of an editorial writer.
     
  4. Glockman19

    Glockman19 Hillsboro Active Member

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    HA HA :thumbup:
     
  5. rolandson

    rolandson Oregon Active Member

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    Reading the news out of Washington, and some of the comments over on another thread about some guy worrying because his one year old child promised not to touch his gun, but went ahead and did so anyway, I come away with the impression that there are some truly magnificent morons out there.

    It's not a difficult concept; you got kids around, lock up your efing guns.

    I welcome legislation that emphasizes the responsibility factor of gun ownership: Your gun hurts somebody, it's on you, unless you have taken serious measures to prevent that.

    What I find so overwhelmingly unbelievable is that such legislation would be necessary. Jesus, this is not rocket science.
     
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  6. RB87

    RB87 Oregon Active Member

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    There oughta be a law! But where does it end? What are serious measures? Think those measures won't be used to take away your self defense rights? Look at the prescription requirement for sudafed. Im a poor bastard with a bad cold looking for cheap relief and the next day I need a doc's permission slip and 2-3x more cash. All because I might be a drug seller/dealer/user. Has it worked in stopping the scourge of meth? Not really. Those bilboard ads and websites showing people what happens to meth users has probably been more effective.
     
  7. rolandson

    rolandson Oregon Active Member

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    I am probably not the best guy to use a drug prohibition example on to make your point...I don't believe that there should be any drug prohibitions. I believe education and treatment are far more effective than creating a very lucrative black market.

    And I am not necessarily a huge supporter of more laws; I am, however, a huge supporter of responsible gun ownership.

    Wouldn't it be wonderful if we were not having this discussion because every moron out there, who believed that because they told their kid something, their kid was listening / understood / obeyed; and had suddenly realized that their kid is a kid, and doesn't have the faculties to comprehend and, just perhaps, they ought to lock the efing guns up.

    So until that glorious day when these ignorant hillbillies decide that kids with holes in them is not conducive to convincing those left and right wing fear mongers that guns are not the problem but rather "idiots with guns" is the problem (stolen from a compatriot over on the liberal gun club), and put away their toys... I guess legislation is the next best thing.
     
  8. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    I am not for any prohibitions...how about that. If you had no gun laws at all...any, the general public would have no more "accidents" or missuse of firearms then the Law Enforcement community has now, and they are about as trained and controlled as to "gun safety" as it gets. Stupid. The State and National constritutions say your "Right" to bear arms shal not be infringed..If everyone wasn't so uptight about guns on airplanes, 9/11 could have never happened....think about it...gun control is hitting the target. The only way you will stop car accidents is to take cars off the road completely.

    It has been shown that those that are afraid, are afraid of themselves, and assume everyone else could possibly do the same. If you want to lock up all your firearms so they are inaccessable to anyone, they will be inaccessable to you too. think about it.

    I started wearing seatbelts in 1958 (when you had to special order them)...and I used mine. But, you know what, I think seat belt laws are an infringement on our freedoms and I am totally against them, drug laws, any nanny government law. If you wanted to park a fully opperational Abrams tank or Cobra heicopter in your yard and you lived next door to me...I would not care,,,verstehn> It means nothing to me unless you damage my property, or threaten my life...if you want to be free you have to allow the other guy do his thing..OK?
     
  9. One-Eyed Ross

    One-Eyed Ross Winlock, WA Well-Known Member

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    First of all, as a "hillbilly" I resent that remark. Secondly, in the instant cases, one was a felon and shouldn't have a firearm anyway, one was a cop and laws are written to exclude them. Only in the third case was the individual a person a law would address....so you want all guns locked up in the presence of children. So if I am carrying my sidearm and a kid comes over I have to take it off and lock it up? (not what you suggested, but the way the law would probably be written. )
     
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  10. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    Ignorant Hillbilly? Hum...I have a Masters and an MBA, retired from owning my own business. Oldest daughter is a graduate nurse (from the big school there in OR) graduate Suma *** Laude, her husband just got out of the military and is working on his PhD in GIS...youngest daughter graduated from WSU Magna *** Laude with a dual major, animal science, and Fine Arts.

    Am I, are we, hilbillies? well, depends on what you call a hillbilly...we live 20 miles outside a small town (<1000), 2000' above the valley on the side of a mountain, in a cabin, with 5 miles of dirt and gravel road between us and blacktop....Hillbilly? Maybe...I do not find the term derogatory,,,,, Ignorant? I don't think so.
     
  11. Sabertooth

    Sabertooth Josephine County Active Member

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    Lock up your guns. Who's the ADULT PARENT in the house? My family, 9 kids. My wifes family,11 kids. Guns and ammo in eather household where ever locked up. Never saw the need. Starting at diaper stage, hands off the guns! No debate or discussion! Don't get it? Leather applied to butt clears any issues child has about touching guns. When child was old enough it was time to start to teach them how to handle and fire the guns. 8 year old wants to shot Grandpa's double barrel 12ga? Show him how and let shot it. Knocked me on my a##, but I did it. The kids friends in the house?? Where is the suppervising PARENT??

    When are properly taught, guns are no longer a big deal to them. Nothing cool, they are just there.
     
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  12. John H

    John H Whatcom County Well-Known Member

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    That worked for me, never was anything was locked up, and I knew where they were, but I knew better. Not once while my brother and I was growing up was there a problem. Against being forced to lock them up. A locked gun, is as good as no gun.
     
  13. DeanfromOregon

    DeanfromOregon Wilsonville Amateur Ascended Master Platinum Supporter

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    Didn't work on me, when home alone I shot every gun in the house when my parents were gone from the time I was 12. They never found out, but they were kind of clueless. Guns were always hidden in the closet, never locked.

    Even though both my kids shoot with me often, mine are always locked, even the pellet guns.
     
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  14. enjr4

    enjr4 Renton, WA Active Member

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    I our house, guns are locked up unless they are in the personal control of my wife or me. Keeps them from being stolen and keeps unauthorized folks away from them.
    That means that if I (or she) feels the need I have one with them (in hand, bedside, one table/floor beside them, etc.) they are not locked or locked up and they are loaded.
    What the hell good would it be to me locked up or unloaded? Wait, wait, BG wait, I need to get my defense weapon and make it ready to use!!!
    Ed
     
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  15. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    So, you're for creating laws for everyone based on the stupid actions of the few?

    So you're for creating a ban of making it so your car can't go above 70mph? After all, why do you need a car to go faster than any posted speed limit? Lets go one step further...because kids die from drowning, you need to have a fence around your pool if you want to own one to protect kids from drowning.

    What am I saying? Kids die all the time from stupid crap...that's right, I said it. Plain stupid crap. Someone left the oven on with their kid on the counter and someone left an item small enough to swallow but big enough to choke on the floor. What does that mean? That means that stupid people do stupid things. Kids do things that we think are stupid as well...but they don't know any better. Sometimes accidents happen...and sometimes you did a stupid thing (like leave a gun within an arm's reach of a child). Who should be punished? You. Why? Because you made a decision to place the gun there, the stove on or leave the child unattended around a pool. Does that mean we should all suffer? No. Anyone that thinks otherwise should probably check themselves, because if you ever left a knife out for your child to cut them self then just did what the aforementioned did...except times ten. He did a stupid thing...no doubt, but not all gun owners should suffer.
     
  16. MarkAd

    MarkAd Port Orchard Well-Known Member

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    Well I may be a hillbilly. Being ignorant means you don't know something. Being stupid means your a flatlander that thinks feeding his family means going to the store or McDonald's.

    Hillbilly's - damm straight.
    Ignorant No. we anit liberals
     
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  17. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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