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Seattle Has Gang Problem, Not Gun Problem

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Chee-to, May 30, 2012.

  1. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    From: ccalerts <CCAlerts@liberty.seanet.com>
    Subject: Seattle Has Gang Problem, Not Gun Problem
    Date: May 30, 2012 10:25 AM
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    BELLEVUE, WA &#8211; Seattle&#8217;s recent spike in violence and murder has more to do with gangs and the tolerance of a &#8220;thug culture&#8221; than it does with firearms ownership, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms said today, in response to a remark from a police official.

    Seattle Deputy Police Chief Nick Metz is quoted in a newspaper asserting, &#8220;A person who has a gun is more likely to use a gun.&#8221;

    But CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb retorted, &#8220;With all due respect, Chief Metz needs to say that to the more than 365,000 law-abiding gun owners who now possess active concealed pistol licenses and haven't fired a shot in Seattle or anywhere else, except in self-defense. He needs to make that assertion to the estimated one million gun owners in Washington State who do not deserve being lumped in with a bunch of criminals who cannot legally own or carry firearms.&#8221;

    Seattle has had 16 homicides so far this year, about four times the number of killings at the same time last year.

    &#8220;It is easier to blame guns than to confront gangs and a thug culture that glorifies violence and disobeys existing gun laws,&#8221; Gottlieb added. &#8220;Suspects in two recent high-profile murders were both 20 years old, and by law, they could not legally carry the handguns they used, and Chief Metz knows it.

    &#8220;Law-abiding gun owners are not going to take the rap for Seattle&#8217;s gang violence,&#8221; Gottlieb stated, &#8220;nor are we going to stand silently while public officials blame inanimate objects for the cruel, vicious deeds committed by people who ought to be behind bars. Rank-and-file Seattle police officers are dedicated to protecting citizens and their neighborhoods, and they know who the real trouble makers are.

    &#8220;CCRKBA has always been willing to sit down and have rational discussions about how to address violent crime,&#8221; he concluded. &#8220;We would be delighted to work toward solutions that do not blame, or penalize, law-abiding citizens or seek to erode their firearm civil rights. The fact that our telephones have not been ringing off the hook with invitations of participation suggests that Seattle politicians are more interested in exploiting crime than reducing it.&#8221;

    With more than 650,000 members and supporters nationwide, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms is one of the nation&#8217;s premier gun rights organizations. As a non-profit organization, the Citizens Committee is dedicated to preserving firearms freedoms through active lobbying of elected officials and facilitating grass-roots organization of gun rights activists in local communities throughout the United States. The Citizens Committee can be reached by phone at (425) 454-4911, on the Internet at The Common Sense Gun Lobby Citizens Committee For The Right To Keep And Bear Arms or by email to InformationRequest@ccrkba.org.
  2. Morpheus

    Morpheus Columbia Gorge Anyway, back on the farm.

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    "A person who has a gun is more likely to use a gun."
    Does this apply to law enforcement as well? Most of them carry firearms? Yet, a lot of them never fire their weapon in many years of service. Some never even draw their firearms.

    Overall, well written reply.
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  3. CrossHairs

    CrossHairs Tigard Active Member

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    Agreed. This is absolutely the right kind of discourse on this topic. Sadly, rational thought and action seem in short supply.

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    A cheap, nonsensical statement. No Mr. Metz, A criminal who has a gun, most likely illegally, is more than likely to use it than the law-abiding legal gun owner.
  5. duran21

    duran21 Lacey Active Member

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    he is right though... i have a gun and i tend to use it at the range... plus... if someone does not have a gun... wouldnt that make it impossible to use a gun... just saying...

    I heard that seattle wants to change state law so they can restrict firearms more... Leadership in Seattle need to look at Chicago and DC... learn from their mistakes... less guns= more crime!
  6. Kaniffy117

    Kaniffy117 Edmonds Member

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    They wont learn, they don't like the fact that we can own firearms and any crime that involves one fuels their fire to try and restrict our rights, luckily people aren't as willing to listen to their garbage and will do their own research to know the truth. If the leaders in Seattle really wanted to help curb gun crimes they would instead promote defense and safety with firearms and promote the use of Concealed carry permits and ownership of firearms to help deter crimes. Just my $.02.
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  7. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  8. enjr4

    enjr4 Renton, WA Active Member

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    It is not a matter of "won't learn" it is that the facts do not support their preconceived mind set and "they" will say anything to support the belief that "they" are right and Americans should be disarmed.

    Yesterday on Fox "Five at Five" it was demonistrated when during a handgun discussion Juan Williams said people do not need weapons for self defence. It was pointed out to him that he said that while setting in a building surrounded by people with guns to protect him. He had nothing more to say. Just sort of got a funny look on his face.

  9. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    :nuts: :banghead:

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