SCOTUS rules police can collect DNA sample when one is arrested for a serious crime

[ATCclears]

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[OLDNEWBIE]

A genetic registry/database is just around the corner. I'm guessing all newborns are DNA sampled these days without our knowledge. This could/will be used to plant evidence, eliminate political foes as well as for legitimate police work. In the name of a healthier population it will be used to screen parents for genetic defects without their consent. Without the correct DNA you might be prohibited from having children or working in certain jobs.
Yes I've seen Gattica and read Brave New World but it does seem we are heading in that direction!

 

[drew]

Scalia actually agreed with the majority of the liberals on the court and I believe they're correct.

You can't erode protections to help catch criminals. These collections will expand.

 

[Bushman]

They arm mexican drug cartels and allow them to flood our country and use our tax payer paid services and ruin our communities and culture. You kill US CITIZENS with drones. You disarm US CITIZENS. You spy on our every phone call, email, etc. And now this?!?!!!

 

[Redcap]

And down the slippery slope we go...

 

[mortar maggot]

what is the quote about those that give up freedom for the promise of safety deserve neither, comes to mind.

sure this will catch some, perhaps even many bad guys, and things will be touted as everything is good for the first few years.

But somewhere down the road, the DNA collection and data will be abused, and vastly abused.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Maybe my DNA filed with the US Gov kept me getting promoted in a timely manner???

That must be the reason I never hooked up with that swimsuit model I had my sights set on years ago!

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Next thing you know, your weapon will be boxed with the empty cases fired for ballistics match to your weapon's serial number.

Supposedly, if your gun has the empty case sent with it, no record is kept. The case is the record for states that require it. I read that somewhere but don't remember, could be B.S.!

 

[DoubleTapDrew]

I was just throwing it out there. I have no knowledge on the subject but i might research it. If people really wanted to protect their privacy they wouldn't be on forums and they would toss their cellular phones in the fire.

But where are the bullets from those cases.... hehehe

Dunno if it's true or not but the guys at NW armory said if you have the 2 empty cases they haven't been logged anywhere for "ballistic fingerprinting" record keeping. If you have 1 or 0, they have been logged (some states require it they say). Unfortunately politicians watch too much CSI and failed to see ballistic fingerprinting has never solved a single crime, before throwing billions of dollars at the program.

 

[Burt Gummer]

Let's face it. Americans are the most gullible and controllable populace ever.

Propaganda is the fuel, false patriotism is the battle call.

The Oligarch's wet dream. The end of all individual liberties is coming, not if, but when. Just a nation of non-thinking drones.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Dunno if it's true or not but the guys at NW armory said if you have the 2 empty cases they haven't been logged anywhere for "ballistic fingerprinting" record keeping. If you have 1 or 0, they have been logged (some states require it they say). Unfortunately politicians watch too much CSI and failed to see ballistic fingerprinting has never solved a single crime, before throwing billions of dollars at the program.

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Back on topic, I googled DNA DRAGNET and wasn't surprised that it has happened already.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Clear violation of the 4th. How much longer will we sit by, passive? Tick, tock goes the clock to tyranny

Honestly we don't even need guns, just the understanding and the stones to act (sorry, ladies)

 

[1stklass]

Who cares! just be more careful when you hide the body!

 

[Father of four]

Figures.

5 out of 9 judges making the decisions for 300+ million people in our country once again. The people want say or do anything about. Bye bye more rights.

 

[Burt Gummer]

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/junk-decision-warrantless-dna-collection

 

[Blitzkrieg]

Figures.

5 out of 9 judges making the decisions for 300+ million people in our country once again. The people want say or do anything about. Bye bye more rights.

5 traitors in black robes

 

[Father of four]

5 traitors in black robes

I think so.

How in the heck could the 5 judges even consider that forceful DNA collection from The People is Constitutional? A suspect in a crime, sure I guess so but just because the LEOs arrest you for what ever they consider a serious crime now?

 

[Father of four]

I think that if the Supreme Court rules on something that the public disagrees with then at least there needs to be some discussion between the two. The Supreme Court should not just have the last say if The People disagree.

The Supreme Court judges and their decisions needs to always be held accountable to someone and it should be We the People!!!!!

 

[Father of four]

Its just crazy how fast the courts throw Our rights under the bus. Just like the new story that's out there about a judge at a secret court meeting making Verizon and probably other United States companies turn over their customers (The American Peoples) personal information and their user data over to the government even though the customers (The American People) are not a suspect in a crime.

Judges, as well as ALL of Our government employees (elected, hired or appointed) needs to be held accountable for what they do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Thread about the Verizon bull here...http://www.northwestfirearms.com/off-topic/139500-fear-your-government.html#post899793

 

[Blitzkrieg]

I think that if the Supreme Court rules on something that the public disagrees with then at least there needs to be some discussion between the two. The Supreme Court should not just have the last say if The People disagree.

The Supreme Court judges and their decisions needs to always be held accountable to someone and it should be We the People!!!!!

My version of "discussion" in these matters cannot be accomplished with mere vocal cords