Scotland votes to break from U.K.

[SPU]

They chose to stay with their historical masters, England. Makes me proud to be a second generation Irish-American.

 

[OLDNEWBIE]

Maybe as a whole they never really wanted a split but just wanted to send a message. I understand as a result of all this they have gained some concessions/ better representation.
Too bad though, in the long run they will be sorry they missed this chance. England as we traditionally have thought of it is dying quick.
The infection that is killing that once great Nation will eventually spread to the so called Commonwealth.

 

[Just Jim]

Guess the Scott's have had their quest for freedom finally bred out of them. Socialism will do that.

 

[Certaindeaf]

I have a feeling that were the vote held at some other time, it might have/come out differently.
The Prime Minister of England is a Scott (David Cameron) and he would have had to bow out with a vote of no confidence.. that would have taken away a point of honor/pride presently held by all Scotts.
It is what it is.

 

[Just Jim]

For Scotland ' s men the kilt has turned into a skirt.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Oh Jim, you know you wanted to say "they can't even spell "Alamo"". lol

 

[Just Jim]

They might as well be a country of bird watchers

 

[4Freedom]

Damn.. And, I was hoping that the liberation of Scotland would be a step in the right direction for us in our quest to promote an independent, autonomous nation of Cascadia. I guess if the Scots cannot pull it off, neither can we. Guess we will all be taking orders from the EU/NATO sooner or later.

 

[Doc In UPlace]

Would any of you guys move to Texas if they drop out of the union?

Nope. Lived there for a year once, that was a lifetime's worth.

 

[erudne]

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By <broken link removed>, Barcelona and Martin Roberts in Madrid
2:36PM BST 19 Sep 2014

The Spanish government faces a major constitutional crisis in the coming weeks as Catalans set on breaking away from Spain push ahead for their own referendum on self-rule.
Artur Mas, the president of the Catalonia's regional government in Barcelona, insisted on Friday that the Catalans would fight the full weight of Spanish state to hold their own "consultation" after the Scottish vote has "shown the way".
"My main commitment is to call, to organise and hold a referendum and let the Catalan people vote," he said.
"If they think in Madrid that by using legal frameworks they can stop the political will of the majority of the Catalan people they are wrong. It is a big mistake. It is something we will have to fight for."
The Catalan leader shrugged off defeat for Scottish independence by insisting the referendum was a triumph of democracy but admitted that the No vote had failed to set a trailblazing precedent that would have forced the EU to deal with separatism.
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"If the Yes vote had won then it would have been much easier to develop consequences at the European level. We are not going to have this precedent with Scotland, so may be the first case will be the Catalans," he said.
In a prerecorded television statement, Mariano Rajoy, the Spanish prime minister, hailed the Scottish result as the best outcome for Europe ahead of emergency government meetings to deal with the unilateral Catalan referendum law over the weekend.
"The Scottish have avoided serious economic, social, institutional and political consequences," he said. "They have chosen the most favourable option for everyone; for themselves, for all of Britain and for the rest of Europe."
Soraya Sáenz de Santamaria, the country's deputy prime minister, refused to accept that David Cameron's decision to hold the Scottish referendum set any kind of European, or other, legal precedent as claimed by the Catalans.
"In Spain, decisions about the sovereignty of Spanish people are taken in accordance with the Constitution which the Spanish people approved in 1978, as a whole. As opposed to other models, Spain is one of the most – if not the most -- decentralised country in the world," she said.
Spain's constitutional court is likely to uphold an appeal by Madrid given that it ruled against a declaration of sovereignty by the Catalonian parliament earlier this year, and against a consultation on independence for the Basque Country in 2008.
Tensions rose on Tuesday when José Manuel García-Margallo, Spain's foreign minister, hinted that the government might use emergency powers to suspend Catalonia's autonomy to prevent a vote taking place. However, Jorge Diaz Fernández, the interior, swiftly said that was not on the cards.
Should the vote go ahead, as opposed to a single, straight-forward question on independence, as in Scotland, Catalans will be first asked to vote on "Do you want Catalonia to be a state?" and for those who tick "Yes", there will be a follow-up question, "Do you want this state to be independent?"
Most Catalans surveyed by the regional government's polling unit – 45 per cent - want independence, ahead of 23 per cent who want it to retain its current autonomy, and 20 per cent who want a it to be part of a federal Spain

 

[Certaindeaf]

kinda like the price of tea in China.. I think most of the olives in the world come from the Imperial Valley