Scope rings for Westernfield 771a

kgordon · Mar 27, 2023

I'm new and just joined here and I hope someone can help me.
I have my dad's old Westernfield 771a and I'm wanting to upgrade the scope. I need to have raised rings to clear. The existing bases and rings look like Weaver but they aren't the right size. I contacted Weaver, or RCBS and they said that they were made for a scope ring combo for that rifle only. The rifle was made by Hyme in Germany. Nothing else will fit. Has anyone come across this? Should I just have the rifle drilled and put different base on it?
Thanks for any info.

bcp · Mar 27, 2023

kgordon said:
The existing bases and rings look like Weaver but they aren't the right size.

Welcome to NWFA.

Weaver would have no reason to make rings specific to one rifle. They make bases to fit the rifle on the bottom and standard rings on top.

Rings are available from many companies, in many heights and diameters, to fit Weaver bases.

A good photos of both bases and rings would help. Take the bases off and look for a name or number somewhere on them.

Some sources say it is the same basic rifle as the Mauser 3000. Weaver says the bases for the Mauser 3000 are 68 rear and 46 front.

Here are some photos with Weaver bases.

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Bruce

kgordon · Mar 28, 2023

bcp said:
Welcome to NWFA.

Weaver would have no reason to make rings specific to one rifle. They make bases to fit the rifle on the bottom and standard rings on top.

Rings are available from many companies, in many heights and diameters, to fit Weaver bases.

A good photos of both bases and rings would help. Take the bases off and look for a name or number somewhere on them.

Some sources say it is the same basic rifle as the Mauser 3000. Weaver says the bases for the Mauser 3000 are 68 rear and 46 front.

Here are some photos with Weaver bases.

Circa 1970 Mauser, Model 3000, 308 Win. Cal., | Proxibid

Bid in a Proxibid online auction to acquire a Circa 1970 Mauser, Model 3000, 308 Win. Cal., Bolt-Action, SN - 84063 from Will Sullivan Auction Co..

www.proxibid.com

Bruce

Thanks for the info but unfortunately those bases won't work. The bases are off and no numbers. I've been through every base that Weaver has on their site and can't find the hole spacing and length and diameter to match. But I did find on the rings they say Realist I assumed that that was a series name turned out that it's a manufacturer. So now I assume that the base are the same manufacturer. They look just like Weaver except they are to narrow and the rings won't tighten down.

bcp · Mar 28, 2023

1. I would try a thin aluminum shim cut from a soft drink/beer can, wrapped around the base, then try a Weaver ring. This metal is easy to trim with scissors to a neat fit.

2. Post the measurements you have. Diameter, height, and hole spacing is important but length can vary. Height can be adjusted by shims or filing, too.

Bruce

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If that is similar to your gun, this appears to be a relatively common (but very high quality) commercial Mauser action.

Mounts for an "FN 98" (Fabrique Nationale: Belgian maker of commercial Mauser actions) might fit nicely.

Your gun deserves better rings and mounts than Weaver. (Though they have never failed me.)

I went through a quandary not long ago with a commercial Mauser action that had unusual hole spacing. There is a frequent phrase regarding such puzzles:

"When in doubt, call Talley". The Talley firm spent time with me and solved my quandary (I did NOT want to put another hole in that gun)!

WAYNO · Mar 28, 2023

I wont profess to know the answer to all this, but I will share some base numbers from close-but-not-exact Western Field rifles. This is from a Weaver Ring chart of 40+ years ago.

po18guy · Mar 28, 2023

You may have to make a "receiver cast" in order to determine the radius/contour of the receiver and hole spacing. If it is a round top, I believe there are blank bases which could be matched and drilled.