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In a rare moment of candor, the Tacoma News Tribune now admits that they don't know what caused the kid to do this and that 594 would have made no difference. Of course they have not retracted their glowing endorsement of 594 from a couple weeks ago.

"When a school shooting happens, the debate quickly turns to the regulation of firearms. That's an important question, but it has no obvious bearing on this tragedy."​

No kidding. A better question is, can they point to any tragedies where a law like 594 would have made a difference?

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I guess he just wanted to kill those he felt wronged him . What will 594 do to prevent teenage rage.......nothing.
But then 594 is just the start down the rabbit hole for gun rights in Washington
they will continue to try and regulate human nature one way or the other.
Once firearms are regulated , if they get that far what will they cry for next ?
 
I keep seeing the Media call for restrictions on the 2nd...lately its been I-594 driven. They keep stating that the framers were speaking to the technology of the day [muskets.]

They are such hypocrites because they utilize the technology of the day to circulate their right to freedom of speech/press. If we tried to limit them to hand written or physically printed media, they would freak out, though I believe they should be restricted from showing the names/faces of these psychopaths, just glamorizing the event.


Slightly off topic, but related to a discussion I had today regarding this event:

Earlier today, an anti-gun friend of mine was going on and on about how he knows I-594 would have done nothing to prevent this tragedy, but insisted we had to do "something." He enjoys his bourbon, so I proposed what is in my mind an equal scenario (not that I agree with this, I was merely trying to push his buttons to get his attention.)

- Serialize all bottles of alcohol sold.
- Install one-way, tamper evident valves (to prevent refill, so serialization can be enforced.)
- Require a 5 day wait before you can pick up the item [alcohol] you paid for.
- Run a background check for DUI/Domestic violence/whatever else.
- Require a transfer (background check + wait) before passing the bottle to your friend to take a shot.
- In the event a minor is in possession of a bottle of alcohol, hold the owner accountable.
- In the event the bottle is used in a crime (bludgeoning, stabbing) hold the owner accountable.
- In the event an unauthorized person consumes the alcohol and does something irresponsible, hold the owner accountable.
- Allow the Sheriff to enter your home to inspect your liquor cabinet to ensure things are properly secured (which the antis have tried, and we are headed fast in this direction, relates more to I-591.)

I ended by mockingly stating "this would probably save at least one life, so we should totally do it, because if it saves one life its worth it."

He disagreed with me, stating this wasn't the answer to drunk driving deaths (which it isn't, he's right about that.) How he reached that conclusion, yet thinks I-594 needs to be passed...I really don't know...it's about as apples to apples as it gets.

It's amazing how people use these types of events to demonize the lawful and good gun owners in America, asking more and more of us each time one of these tragic events take place, when most people find it inconvenient to pull their ID out of their wallet for five seconds when they get carded at the liquor store.
 
I keep seeing the Media call for restrictions on the 2nd...lately its been I-594 driven. They keep stating that the framers were speaking to the technology of the day [muskets.]

They are such hypocrites because they utilize the technology of the day to circulate their right to freedom of speech/press. If we tried to limit them to hand written or physically printed media, they would freak out, though I believe they should be restricted from showing the names/faces of these psychopaths, just glamorizing the event.


Slightly off topic, but related to a discussion I had today regarding this event:

Earlier today, an anti-gun friend of mine was going on and on about how he knows I-594 would have done nothing to prevent this tragedy, but insisted we had to do "something." He enjoys his bourbon, so I proposed what is in my mind an equal scenario (not that I agree with this, I was merely trying to push his buttons to get his attention.)

- Serialize all bottles of alcohol sold.
- Install one-way, tamper evident valves (to prevent refill, so serialization can be enforced.)
- Require a 5 day wait before you can pick up the item [alcohol] you paid for.
- Run a background check for DUI/Domestic violence/whatever else.
- Require a transfer (background check + wait) before passing the bottle to your friend to take a shot.
- In the event a minor is in possession of a bottle of alcohol, hold the owner accountable.
- In the event the bottle is used in a crime (bludgeoning, stabbing) hold the owner accountable.
- In the event an unauthorized person consumes the alcohol and does something irresponsible, hold the owner accountable.
- Allow the Sheriff to enter your home to inspect your liquor cabinet to ensure things are properly secured (which the antis have tried, and we are headed fast in this direction, relates more to I-591.)

I ended by mockingly stating "this would probably save at least one life, so we should totally do it, because if it saves one life its worth it."

He disagreed with me, stating this wasn't the answer to drunk driving deaths (which it isn't, he's right about that.) How he reached that conclusion, yet thinks I-594 needs to be passed...I really don't know...it's about as apples to apples as it gets.

It's amazing how people use these types of events to demonize the lawful and good gun owners in America, asking more and more of us each time one of these tragic events take place, when most people find it inconvenient to pull their ID out of their wallet for five seconds when they get carded at the liquor store.
Reminds me of I guy I use to work that was from Seattle that thought guns kill people and he thought all gun rights activists are a bunch of trigger happy rednecks. I have no idea where he got this imagine about gun owners but it is what it is. It just proves to me the mentality and how uneducated the anti gunners really are.
 
Another rally for gun control, another Wash. sheriff against it

While backers of billionaire-funded Initiative 594 are planning one more rally this Saturday – using the Marysville-Pilchuck school shooting as something of a campaign prop – another county sheriff has joined 26 of his colleagues to oppose the measure.

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Another rally for gun control, another Wash. sheriff against it

While backers of billionaire-funded Initiative 594 are planning one more rally this Saturday – using the Marysville-Pilchuck school shooting as something of a campaign prop – another county sheriff has joined 26 of his colleagues to oppose the measure.

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Hoo Rahh for the Sheriff, and hope the bloombergies all get diarrhea before their event.
They have had diarrhea of the mouth all year.......................
 
The Pussifacatiin of American boys is a very real thing. American kids and especially boys have very unreal expectations. They are taught in school that they will always succeed and if you simply try that's Goodnuf. That's not the way it works in the real world as we all know. Life is often messy and painful. It is very seldom fair.


I had some very real world experience with this. My oldest son who is mostly raised in Seattle by his single mother while I was in Idaho was one of those subjected to schooling where there was no failing grade. Any time that he had a major confrontation at school his mother pulled him out of class and moved him to a different school. He was a great kid, everyone loved him. Smart, articulate and had lots of friends.

He was 19 when he hung himself, devistated that the girl he hoped to marry found another guy away at school.

I don't see it as much different that what this kid in Marysville went through other than my boy went alone. There are consequences to sheltered fairytale make believe childhoods. We are not doing our kids any justice.


You really hit the nerve of the whole thing.
Personally I don't want any of these pussified youth holding my back in a fight of any kind. They will all fall and have a crying tantrum at the first bump or bruise.
Sorry to hear about your son, and that is why we have to take our education system out of the hands of socialists and Marxists ! They want the pussified people in this country so they can walk on them at their will. That needs to damn sure change.
 
Reminds me of I guy I use to work that was from Seattle that thought guns kill people and he thought all gun rights activists are a bunch of trigger happy rednecks. I have no idea where he got this imagine about gun owners but it is what it is. It just proves to me the mentality and how uneducated the anti gunners really are.

it's from seeing stuff like mr. open carry Rambo at anti-594 rallies, and idiotic posts on these forums publically advocating violence on people they don't agree with. gun shows which publically flaunt "no background checks!". irresponsible idiots setting wildfires with target shooting. all those god damn ND's.

want to know where he gets that image? look at gun owners. look at these forums. we are often our own worst enemy. you're not going to get people on your side by being confrontational in public and posting incendiary crap.

very few gun owners are actively trying to promote a positive, responsible image. instead, most of the time the public just gets full on ted nugent middle finger from us.

want someone to blame? look at ourselves.
 

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