SBR question in Oregon

808Rude · Jul 25, 2016

Currently in the process of my first SBR build in Albany Oregon. I was looking at the ATF site and checking out the necessary paperwork. I see you can upload the forms once filled out and do it electronically. My question is about the fingerprint card and ID photo. Are those uploadable also? Is it better to mail the package off?I have a scanner so it wouldn't be a problem for me to do it electronically. Also, does having a gun trust make this process easier? Thanks in advance for your input.

Twodogs · Jul 25, 2016

Must use trust to file electronically.

808Rude · Jul 25, 2016

Twodogs said:
Must use trust to file electronically.

Gotcha, I guess I'll be researching that next. So do the photos an finger prints still apply if you use a trust? Thanks for the insight.

SCARed · Jul 25, 2016

I'm not sure there's any way to electronically file now that 41P has gone into effect.

Edit; I've read that the ATF is looking at ways to enable uploading fingerprints. So maybe in a couple months, (or years realistically cause we are talking about the ATF), they will allow efiles again.

808Rude · Jul 25, 2016

SCARed said:
I'm not sure there's any way to electronically file now that 41P has gone into effect.

Edit; I've read that the ATF is looking at ways to enable uploading fingerprints. So maybe in a couple months, (or years realistically cause we are talking about the ATF), they will allow efiles again.

Of course....story of my life. Wait around long enough just for things to get more complicated.

Thanks

JedB · Jul 26, 2016

The quicker route would be to go form 4 and buy a 'pre-built' SBR lower.

wired · Jul 28, 2016

You cannot use the e file to file trust any more. You really cant use it for much of anything not dealer related any more. There will be no time difference filing a form 1 vs a form 4 .They will be clearing out the pre 41P backlog for a while. Then things should smooth out and the number of NFA applications will probably drop with the "easy" route gone.

PDXSparky · Jul 31, 2016

Yep, e-file is not longer an option for regular citizens.

wired said:
You cannot use the e file to file trust any more. You really cant use it for much of anything not dealer related any more. There will be no time difference filing a form 1 vs a form 4 .They will be clearing out the pre 41P backlog for a while. Then things should smooth out and the number of NFA applications will probably drop with the "easy" route gone.

You are probably right. I know I won't be sending in any forms for the foreseeable future. I sent in 3 just before 41P took affect.

CountryGent · Sep 7, 2016

I had a some Form 1s completed through eForms and one still pending. All the rest of the forms were ye olde paper. For all of its many quirks, eForms was pretty convenient, at least compared to hardcopies. On the main site, they mention F1s might be coming back for those of us with Trusts:

Due to the provisions of 41F the ATF Forms 1 and 5 are temporarily unavailable for submission through the eForms system. The forms were removed to allow ATF the opportunity to revise the forms and the workflows associated with the forms to incorporate the new requirements of 41F. While we do not have a specific date as to when the forms will be available again, we are working diligently to bring these forms back at a future point in time.

I'm not holding my breath, but at least it might happen.