SB941: Legal behavior becomes felonious on August 9th, 2015

[deadeye]

just dont get caught. "well this bill of sale says august 8th 2015. guess were legit then."

Just make sure that it was not produced or sold via FFL after that date, kinda null and voids that BOS.

 

[RW-Ore]

I will not comply.......period
Lane county
Linn county
Yamhill county
and now I believe Jackson county just today said their not going to comply
Sheriff Glen Palmer of Grant county said in the hearings that he wasn't going to follow SB 941. It was damn near treason he said. And he has not changed his mind
The city of Canby said the same.

All the sheriff's of these counties have stood and said they will not comply. It's not cut and dried folks it is unenforceable. As I see it, if you go to the state police and do your transfer in their office, how else are they going to know a transfer took place because that's the only law enforcement group that might arrest you.

26 of 36 counties sent resolutions to Salem saying they do not approve of SB 941 and do not want anything to do with it.

In effect the people of Oregon is telling Salem to go pound sand. Am I missing something here ?. What are your thoughts.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

I will not comply.......period
Lane county
Linn county
Yamhill county
and now I believe Jackson county just today said their not going to comply
Sheriff Glen Palmer of Grant county said in the hearings that he wasn't going to follow SB 941. It was damn near treason he said. And he has not changed his mind
The city of Canby said the same.

All the sheriff's of these counties have stood and said they will not comply. It's not cut and dried folks it is unenforceable. As I see it, if you go to the state police and do your transfer in their office, how else are they going to know a transfer took place because that's the only law enforcement group that might arrest you.

26 of 36 counties sent resolutions to Salem saying they do not approve of SB 941 and do not want anything to do with it.

In effect the people of Oregon is telling Salem to go pound sand. Am I missing something here ?. What are your thoughts.

portland metro is the only voice salem hears. noone else matters.

 

[RW-Ore]

Well we will have to change heir way of thinking then yes ?

 

[RW-Ore]

Are you going to allow Portland to regulate the laws of Oregon. Portland is a city within the state of Oregon. Are you going to allow a small portion of the state to dictate to the rest of the state. It cannot happen unless the people allow it.

 

[whiskeybill]

After reading these posts and attendant questions, I would have to say these laws are already having the intended effect. Complete confusion and ripe for unintended crime to be committed. Make criminals of law-abiding citizens. Then the state can make arrests and make it at least appear they are "tough on crime and doing something about it", while confiscating firearms and getting them "off the street". The real criminals will, of course, carry on with their behaviors as though the law doesn't apply to them, which of course, it doesn't.

 

[whiskeybill]

Are you going to allow Portland to regulate the laws of Oregon. Portland is a city within the state of Oregon. Are you going to allow a small portion of the state to dictate to the rest of the state. It cannot happen unless the people allow it.

I hate to point this out, but this is purely a matter of demographics. There are more people in the greater Portland metropolitan area than the rest of Oregon combined. This demographic also happens to be, for the most part, liberal, left-leaning and Democrat voters. This is how the rest of the state gets run into the ground. The same holds true in Washington state. The Seattle / King County region of the state is controlled by the leftists. They tend to get their way in Olympia as well. Both states tend to get more liberals elected to office at the state and federal levels. The smaller, more conservative areas of the states get shut out of the discussions. If it's a "problem" in Portland, then the "solution" will work for Burns, which, by the way, does not have that particular problem to solve.

 

[RW-Ore]

whiskeybill you are correct in saying Portland has their own problems what I'm saying is the rest of the state does not so we should make blanket laws for the whole state to try and fix Portland. That is socialist one size fit all.

 

[ocarolan]

26 of 36 counties sent resolutions to Salem saying they do not approve of SB 941 and do not want anything to do with it.

Does not matter if a future transferee* is caught with the firearm in the other 10 counties, and the firearm was manufactured post-2015. That jurisdiction might still prosecute you under SB 941 and your local sheriff can't do much about it.

Fortunately SB 941 has enough exceptions that any competent defense attorney can drive this through.



For example you could concoct an undated bill of transfer stating the transferee was cerakoting your gun under exception (E). Then if someone was caught with it later you could claim the "cerakoter" was still working on it and you forgot to pick it up.

Or perhaps you could claim the transferee was briefly your domestic partner, since this term is mostly undefined. For example, Seattle defines it merely as a "relationship of mutual support".

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Bottom line is SB 941 is not easy for a DA to work with. It may help identify egregious straw purchasers though.

*transferred special definition under SB 941.

 

[SheepDog223]

i suspect ill be seeing ads like this after aug 9.

For sale. Gun case for AR-15 with quad rail and detachable carry handle. $800.


For sale. Holster for glock 36. $550.

 

[CHLChris]

^^^ Hilarious! I think we just solved the problem. Then, later, we can just say to the state police officer, "Oh man, I forgot to take that pistol out of the holster before selling it? Bummer! Just an innocent mistake, I assure you."

 

[RW-Ore]

Sounds like a start. The only cops that will enforce 941 are the state cops and there ain't an over abundance of them.

Your on your own kids, as for me, I will not comply.

 

[jefe]

if that polygamist in montana wins his legal case, does that mean that all members of NWFA can become "domestic partners"?

"officer, that pistol was a gift from one of my domestic partners. yes, i am married to my wife, but i also have a few thousand domestic partners, too."

 

[Member 5605]

if that polygamist in montana wins his legal case, does that mean that all members of NWFA can become "domestic partners"?

"officer, that pistol was a gift from one of my domestic partners. yes, i am married to my wife, but i also have a few thousand domestic partners, too."

It may get funny when you meet each other for the first time, give each other a hug, kiss on the cheek and hold hands while looking deeply into the others eyes and discuss firearms.

(Was that too much????)

 

[jefe]

It may get funny when you meet each other for the first time, give each other a hug, kiss on the cheek and hold hands while looking deeply into the others eyes and discuss firearms.

(Was that too much????)

honestly, it's a price i'd be willing to pay to freely exercise my 2A right.

"officer, he was my 'domestic partner' for about 10 minutes. then we parted ways. the pistol was a gift. the money i gave him was a gift."

i argue, why not use the goals of the "progressives" as weapons against "progressive" agendas.

 

[etrain16]

Sounds like a start. The only cops that will enforce 941 are the state cops and there ain't an over abundance of them.

Your on your own kids, as for me, I will not comply.

Don't be so sure. I'll bet the cops in Multnomah County and Portland are foaming at the mouth to grab folks under SB941. They have to appease their local electorate after all. The local LE leaders in those areas haven't exactly been vocal proponents of SB941. In fact, didn't the chief of police for Portland speak in Salem in favor of 941?

To sum up, in Portland:

* Pot - hell yes!
* Naked bike rides - hell yes!
* Amnesty for illegal immigrants - hell yes!
* Plop homeless camps in your local neighborhood - hell yes!
* Give conservatives a voice - hell no!
* Give support to gun rights - mutha fracking hell no!

Now, where's that darn nanny state nip? I'm hungry and need more government support!

 

[whiskeybill]

whiskeybill you are correct in saying Portland has their own problems what I'm saying is the rest of the state does not so we should make blanket laws for the whole state to try and fix Portland. That is socialist one size fit all.

RW,

Because Portland has such a high population, how many representatives do they get in the state legislature? Much more than say Burns or Baker City I would imagine. Let us not forget that just about all cities west of the Cascades are pretty liberal, Salem included. (Oregon sure likes Democrat governors, don't they?).That is what you are up against. If you have a bunch of politicians who think the average Oregonian is incapable of safely filling their own gas tank, why is it such a surprise that they would think you can't responsibly own a firearm?? I often wonder if the gas station attendants that operate the pumps have gone through some specialized training for that job, or if they are as unsafe and unskilled as I am. Until the culture changes in Weirdlandia, so it will go for the rest of the state.

 

[RW-Ore]

There are people that know this whiskeybill and will be fighting come election time. You get what you allow them to take. Hopefully this will change soon. The way it is now if you don't live in the Willamette valley, you are not represented.

 

[FA9]

i suspect ill be seeing ads like this after aug 9.

For sale. Gun case for AR-15 with quad rail and detachable carry handle. $800.


For sale. Holster for glock 36. $550.

I saw a cl ad like this once. I LoL'd

Holster for glockXX $450.