Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dallas Ken, May 5, 2015.
My report seems to be in error as the Bill was declared "AN EMERGENCY"
So.....there we go. Crapola!!
Perhaps you should provide something to back up your claim as the bill itself states it takes effect upon passage (being signed).
I was listening to a reporter on the evening news..as usual probably was BS.
I see now where Oregon uses The Emergency clause on most all votes...
I believe you Gents are correct........
It would be 90 days because it is spelled out specifically in the bill. Immediately or a couple months, it still sucks.
I didn't catch that, thanks. There is a difference between "operative", "effective date", and "takes effect". Anyone want to test it out?
941 has passed through the house, but when will the law take affect?
When will this law be enforced?
I think I heard on the radio the law will be in affect 90 days after Kate Brown signs, but I can not find more info to confirm this. And I was not able to hear clearly on the radio..
Any insight will be greatly appreciated I don't think I am the only one confused on this issue.
yep 90 days just like us.
F*CK YOU 594 I will not comply
So obviously the govt wont be sending out nice little notification of the new law to current gun owners who are oblivious to their political surroundings. So it will be interesting to see what happens in the coming years to these people with their head in the sand when they get the nasty fines/loss of rights.
Granted many LEO agencies have stated they will not enforce the laws but that may change.
If you have any doubt about the law and plan on participating in a private transaction, then don't do it in public. As long as a cop or a liberal doesn't see you everything will be fine.
So a scenario here..
I sell a gun to someone, then they later take it into a pawn shop or use it in self defense.. Wouldn't either event raise attention when the #'s are ran?
Only if the gun is purchased from an FFL after 941 passes. If you owned the gun beforehand there would be no proof that you sold it illegally after 941 passed. If you really wanted to help your situation you could even backdate a bill-of-sale.
I sold all of my guns Monday afternoon.
being an 'emergency bill', doesn't it go into effect as soon as the bill is signed?
So the 9o days is correct?
No. The emergency clause, added after the bill was drafted, supercedes the 90 days noted in the bill. From everything I've been able to find, it confirms the emergency clause will cause it to go into effect upon signing. As to when actual enforcement will begin, that's up to the local law enforcement agencies. I am willing to bet anything inside Multnomah county will be enforced while the ink is still wet.
No. It goes into effect 90 days from the date the Governor signs it. So technically it wouldn't be in effect until August.
Everything I've been able to find indicates the emergency clause, added after the bill was drafted, will supercede the 90 days and go into effect immediately. I checked it again this morning on one of the Oregon websites. I'd like that not to be the case, but it looks like it is.
I'm so confused...the act goes into effect immediately (Sec.23) yet Section 2 of the act, relating to transfer, goes into operation 90 days after signing (Sec. 20). So much for clearly written legislation.
Section 2 of this 2015 Act and the
amendments to ORS 166.432, 166.433,
166.434, 166.438 and 181.150 by sections 6 to 10 of this 2015 Act
become operative 90 days after
the effective date of this 2015 Act.
The Department of State
Police may take any action before the operative
date specified in
section 20 of this 2015 Act that is necessary for the department to imple-
ment section 2 of
this 2015 Act and the amendments to ORS 166.432, 166.433, 166.434, 166.438
and 181.150 by sections 6 to 10 of this 2015 Act.
The amendments to ORS 166.250, 166.291, 166.460, 166.470, 181.740 and 426.133
by sections 11 to 19 of
this 2015 Act apply to orders for assisted outpatient treatment entered
on or after the effective date of this 2015 Act.
This 2015 Act being necessary for the immediate preservation
of the public
peace, health and safety, an emergency is declared to exist, and
this 2015 Act takes effect
on its passage.
Separate names with a comma.