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Do you think the definition has changed or do you think your perception of what a liberal is has changed. Seems to me like a lot of people spend a lot of money trying to craft a false impression of liberalism.

I am a history buff with an extensive Revolutionary era library including the actual letters written on both sides of the conflict and I can say without hesitation that the Founders were not hippies or socialists and in no way for the multi cult nanny state we have now, thanks to modern liberals

The definition has been radically altered in the same way the word gay has been trashed
 
I am a history buff with an extensive Revolutionary era library including the actual letters written on both sides of the conflict and I can say without hesitation that the Founders were not hippies or socialists and in no way for the multi cult nanny state we have now, thanks to modern liberals

The definition has been radically altered in the same way the word gay has been trashed
Most of the liberals I know are not hippies or socialists either so I am missing your point.

Granted the name calling and association your are making is great for inflammatory purposes (which will also ways get you a "like" from rufus :)) but it does nothing to speak to the topic.
 
Most of the liberals I know are not hippies or socialists either so I am missing your point.

Granted the name calling and association your are making is great for inflammatory purposes (which will also ways get you a "like" from rufus) but it does nothing to speak to the topic.

If any post here is pointless and a red herring this is it. I have known liberals all my life and I call em as I see em. You are not fooling anyone, the gig is up
 
This election is for the republicans to loose - it appears that with this squabling Obama has already won. If a better republican candidate is not brought forth I will vote for Obama again. You may not like the way i see things but I never ever asked for permision. I will vote for the best candidate that is presented and so far I see nothing with a republican name on it that I like better. So get hot republicans or prepare to lose again and blame yourselves for it. I feel that many others feel this way as well.

James Ruby
 
i was thinking that playboy and rolanson should be with him

Yes, to recognize that the political process is a sham and that the fake left/right paradigm is to keep the ignorant people pacified is anti-American.

It is disloyal to the country to do your homework and see the lies for what they are; people should just move away if they don't like it. The next puppet of the US has already been chosen at Bilderberg and no minion voting will change that fact. You have no say. But if you believe that ignorance is patriotic, please be my guest ....

Government worshippers cannot tell the difference between America, the land/people and the Corporation of the United States of America. Dimwitted so-called 'patriots' wouldn't know what the Act of 1871 was if it fell on their head.

Like any corporation we have a President. But the President is just a figurehead. The real decisions are made by the board of directors. The un-seen people behind closed doors. Those are the people that decide to hand over the country to the Fed, to start more wars for profit, etc. A president makes NO important decisions whatsoever. He is merely a paperboy. Get it through your dim skulls. You are arguing over which puppet is better. A, B, or C.
 
Penguin,

GOA is a gun rights organization. Their job is to lobby for gun rights not to support the person who has the best economic plan or best foreign policy stance. Their interest is guns period. If they say Santorum is best on guns, that doesn't mean that we all have to go and vote for them, but talking badly about the GOA for suggesting which candidate should be elected for their stance on the second amendment is ridiculous.
 
I find it incredible that it took 7 pages of ad hominem attacks from both sides before the race card was dealt. Ran out of arguments apparently.

If it matters to anyone I fit the description of a liberal in the classic sense, always have. Most modern liberals are statists/progressives and are anything but fans of liberty. My last shooting buddy was a proud Socialist, I didn't care until he refused to return some tools that he borrowed, guess he just wanted to share the wealth.
 
This election is for the republicans to loose - it appears that with this squabling Obama has already won. If a better republican candidate is not brought forth I will vote for Obama again. You may not like the way i see things but I never ever asked for permision. I will vote for the best candidate that is presented and so far I see nothing with a republican name on it that I like better. So get hot republicans or prepare to lose again and blame yourselves for it. I feel that many others feel this way as well.

James Ruby

I would have to agree. The Republicans have lost their way and have become the party of the business and financial elites while paying lip service to ultra-conservatives on social issues. For the most part they have no viable solutions to the enormous problems faced by our country. On economics they continue to preach supply side solutions to what is really a demand crisis. I switched from Republican to Independent registration a while back when I realized that gun control was pretty much the only issue I still agreed with them on. I do like Ron Paul on a few issues, but on others I find him just way too extreme. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping for a third party candidate... one that I can actually feel good about supporting. Yeah fat chance right?
 
Not sure i agree with some of his morals.

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