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Sales tax on private sales of firearms?

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by PlayboyPenguin, Oct 31, 2014.

  1. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Just a quick question for those that may have had more time to familiarize themselves with the new legislation. Since it appears I-594 is going to pass and I-591 is going to fail, will FFL's be required to collect sales tax on every private gun purchase? Even if it has already had the taxes paid in the state of Washington when it was bought originally?
     
  2. AMT

    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Who... what... how... Where are you seeing the numbers????

    To answer your question, I don't know. Wouldn't it be like buying a vehicle? If you can show proof the taxes have been paid, they can't collect again?
     
  3. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Sadly, every single poll I can find has I-594 with a winning margin of 25-40%. Well outside the margin of error. The best poll I can find on I-591 has it with a losing margin of 12%. Also far outside the margin of error.
     
  4. AMT

    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Dang it!

    (the other side of the coin).....

    Maybe a heads up to get the word out that rights will soon be lost if 591 is not voted FOR - and 594 voted AGAINST?

    Maybe a heads up to go vote if people haven't already voted?
     
  5. AMT

    AMT Vancouver, WA. Gold Supporter Gold Supporter

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    Hey Penguin, do you know any FFL's? Have you asked them? Any FFL's out there know the answer?
     
  6. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I have only asked two...both thought they would have to but were not sure.
     
  7. stryker9

    stryker9 Kirkland, WA Member

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    From the voters guide (if you consider that reliable):
    https://wei.sos.wa.gov/agency/osos/...neral-Election/Pages/Online-Voters-Guide.aspx
    (Click on "Initiative Measure No. 594" and then "Explanatory Statement", last paragraph).

    "Sales tax would not apply to the sale or transfer of firearms between people who are not licensed firearms dealers, so long as they comply with all background check requirements. Using a licensed firearms dealer to assist with such sales or transfers would not result in sales or use tax."
     
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  8. SCARed

    SCARed Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Considering its a Use tax and not a sales tax, why would they not have to collect it. If it passes, I don't see it being much different than a car sale.

    Edit; Stryker posted before i could hit post. So there's some clarification.
     
  9. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Fellas, if it passes Washington would be going full retard.
    Oregon may follow.

    Stryker beat me to the punch.
    But wait, here's the kicker..
    Yes you will be hit with a tax the following political session to pay for even more admin cost.. and that tax will go up, and up..
    Thank your politicians.
     
  10. toys in the toybox

    toys in the toybox Tenino Member

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    yup as i read it no taxes on private tranfers.....at least upon enacting. However i would suspect the FFL's may raise thier fees a bit since we have to use them and once the government sees what kind of activity and revenue stream this could be, it wont surprise me that its taxed in the future
     
  11. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    HaHaHa!!! "From the voters guide (if you consider that reliable)"
    That's both hilarious and tragic at the same time!

    I have just texted my WA operatives to remind them, YES on 591 and NO on 594! Good luck WA's!
     
  12. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Well, I guess we can look at that is the small sliver of a silver lining. At least there is no sales tax.
     
  13. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    Shouldn't you be thanking your billionaire demokkkRat elitist masters for buying this legislation?
     
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  14. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    They should!

    Uhg.. And it won't do a damn thing to curb crime.
    Wait until the next mass shooting in WA(God forbid) after this passes..
    Who will be held accountable then?

    Perhaps high capacity assault clips fired from ghost guns shooting 30 boolits in under 1.5 seconds.
     
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  15. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    You forgot the black shoulder thingy that folds up into a barrel shroud.
     
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  16. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Sadly, a large portion of the right was so happy to support unlimited money in politics when the Koch brothers are funding the tea party...but now it has bitten everyone in the bubblegum. The Koch brothers aren't the only ultra-wealthy people that think they know best and now the gates are open for all of them to create their own laws.
     
  17. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Except that applies to campaign finance reforms concerning electing politicians and not funding ballot initiatives, yes?
     
  18. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Free speech is free speech. It matters not in what venue they choose to speak.
     
  19. Nick Burkhardt

    Nick Burkhardt NE Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Why haven't you done a video about this?
     
  20. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    Because I am afraid there is little that can be done. The masses are okay with BG checks and do not consider them infringements. They are also such scared sheep that they are not stopping to evaluate whether or not this new law will actually do any good. They are just believing the tons of false info paid for by big money. The day it was introduced I went on the record of saying it will pass by a large margin...sadly it is looking like I was right.
     
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