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Saiga 12 help?

Discussion in 'Maintenance & Gunsmithing' started by Jack matson, Feb 29, 2016.

  1. Jack matson

    Jack matson Bend, OR. New Member

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  2. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    Federal bird loads don't work well at all thru them. To function well they like high base brass loads of good quality. After they are broke in really well you can run some of the cheaper low base rounds thru them with some success. But still some of them are finicky.
     
  3. Deavis

    Deavis Mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    You may need to open up the ports in the barrel to plug. Not enough gas porting.

    Check the Saiga forums for more info.
     
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  4. pdx1

    pdx1 Portland Area Active Member

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    Check with a member here.
    Sicario
    Hey did my saiga and it runs perfect
    Cycles perfect with all ammo,
    Even Walmart bulk.
    Very reasonable price, and you don't have to
    Buy all that other "reliability" crap..
    I had the same problem

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  5. Deavis

    Deavis Mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    Too much vodka the night before assembly of your unit in Russia. Ive seen undersized holes, not enough holes and even holes obscured but the gas block.

    Once the gas gets right she should purr.
     
  6. SICARIO

    SICARIO Oregon City Active Member

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    You made a good move getting the auto plug, but it won't fix your problem. You are under gassed likely due to the ports being undersized and possibly the gas block partially or completely covering the ports.

    Depending on how the gun is configured, muzzle brake, heavy accessories, recoil reducing stocks can affect the cycling as well.
     
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  7. FordPrefect

    FordPrefect Woodburn, Oregon Active Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I got the low brass reliability kit from Carolina Shooters Supply for mine and I can dump out the cheapest low brass shells with no problems. I changed everything out but the recoil spring. Everything I read about that suggested to not change that if you fire high brass or magnum loads as the recoil spring would be too light and may cause damage. That last statement was pilfered from teh interwebs so ymmv.

    You can find it here, Carolina Saiga 12 Low Brass Reliability kit gunfixer CSS (http://www.carolinashooterssupply.com/Saiga_12_Low_Brass_Reliability_kit_gunfixer_CSS_p/css-reliability-kit.htm)
     
  8. Jack matson

    Jack matson Bend, OR. New Member

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    I did the Carolina shooter supply reliability kit as well. Still having issues with low brass bird shot...pisses me the bubblegum off. But with high brass loads, it's a champ.
     
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    FordPrefect Woodburn, Oregon Active Member 2016 Volunteer

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    May want to check the gas ports. Since installing the reliability kit I have had zero issues other than needing to work out the settings I needed for high/low brass loads.

    I will say that it was after an extensive cleaning too, my gas ports were nasty dirty and I've not had an issue since.
     
  10. Jack matson

    Jack matson Bend, OR. New Member

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    I did clean the crap out of it. I just want to be able to shoot cheap low brass bird shot. High brass is way too expensive. Feel free to text me brother. 337-303-5980
     
  11. ogre

    ogre Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Instead of looking at brass length perhaps it would be better to look at the dram equivalent and muzzle velocity of your shells.