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Sage rats, Rockchucks and Jackrabbits!!

Discussion in 'Northwest Hunting' started by Angler, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. Angler

    Angler North Bend, OR Active Member

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    Just returned from 4 days of hunting down near K-Falls. Sagerats are out thick and rockchucks were on all the rock piles. We even took a trip near Tulelake, CA and spotlighted jackrabbits. Only going to get better!
     
  2. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    got a friend down in K falls wanting me to come down and give him a hand with pest control.,just might be worth the drive.sounds like it would be.
     
  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Do be careful spotlighting in Oregon is a big no no
     
  4. CZ Fan

    CZ Fan Oregon Member

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    I want to pop some sage rats.
     
  5. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    If spotlighting jacks is illegal than the last 7 years I've been lucky to get away.
     
  6. Gun Mechanic

    Gun Mechanic Portland Active Member

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    Whoo hoo! Thanks for the field report! I have a sage rat trip planned for the end of next month near Burns, OR!
     
  7. Otter

    Otter Oregon - mid Willamette Valley Active Member

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    My source in Baker City says he hasn't seen any sage rats at all yet. He drives around a lot and calls them "runners" as they go hauling butt accross the road. Good to hear they are out in K Falls area though. The wx is suppose to get warm Wed and Thurs this week....sure would like to go.
     
  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    YES DUDE YOU HAVE BEEN LUCKY

    From the Oregon Big Game regs page 27 and found here on line on page 22

    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resource...gulations/docs/2012_big_game_regs_001-030.pdf


    and I quote:

    SO I guess if your 500' from any motor vehicle and using a hand held spotlight your ok.

    take or disreguard advise how every you want.
     
  9. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    Myself and a group of buddies spent this last weekend down in the Alkali lake/Abert lake area. All we saw was rabbits and a badger. No rats, or rock chucks unfortunately......Rabbits were a blast and we shot our fair share of them. Would like to have shot a few rats....
     
  10. BANE

    BANE Battle Ground WA. Well-Known Member

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    I was in Kfalls last year working and got to shoot a ton of what we called squeak's.
    And rock chuck's man that's fun!! I can't wait to go help the local farmers there .
    Some of them even supplied the ammo!:thumbup:
     
  11. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    Jack rabbits are not a game animal or a predatory animal so it should put you in the clear. If not I am guilty of the same thing...
     
  12. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Rabbits are in fact listed as a Predatroy animal in the state of Oregon. check out the General Furbearer Regulations under definitions for confrimation page 4.

    http://www.dfw.state.or.us/resource...regulations/docs/2010-2012_Furbearer_Regs.pdf

    SO yes if you are spotlighting Rabbits within 500 ft of a motor vehicle you are breaking the Law.

    Spotlighting has been outlawed in Oregon since the Mid 80's I believe.
     
  13. Mason3379

    Mason3379 Oregon City Active Member

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    Just talked to OSP Fish and Game. It is considered a "predatory animal"! WTF Oregon, a rabbit, Predatory?? Waiting to hear back from OSP on the "official decision".
     
  14. ericb

    ericb Klamath Falls, OR Active Member

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    That's why I pack heat out in the sagebrush, the predatory jackrabbits! Warm weather the next couple days, I'll be out trying my luck on the rats (wife willing).
     
  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A Predatory animal does not have to prey on other animals. In the State definition preying on crops also qualifys. Which makes Sage rats and Rabbits predatory animals

    SO BOYS best either be 500 ft away from you vehicle or stop Spotlighting Your breaking the LAW in Oregon.

    Now call me names and get pissy cause I pointed out you could be heading for a big fine loss of your hunting rights and at the VERY least your firearms if not your vehicle when your caught doing it.
     
  16. raisersedge

    raisersedge backwoods Member

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    Looks like you need to dig a little deeper. Check out ors498.012
    Taking wildlife causing damage, posing public health risk or that is public nuisance

    (1) Nothing in the wildlife laws is intended to prevent any person from taking any wildlife that is causing damage, is a public nuisance or poses a public health risk on land that the person owns or lawfully occupies. However, no person shall take, pursuant to this subsection, at a time or under circumstances when such taking is prohibited by the State Fish and Wildlife Commission, any game mammal or game bird, fur-bearing mammal or nongame wildlife species, unless the person first obtains a permit for such taking from the commission.

    So if you are hunting on private property for an animal causing damage. NOTHING in the game laws pertain to you. Pretty hard to read something into the word NOTHING. Pretty firm stance on it I would think. So before you start spouting your game law rhetoric you need to know the facts. OSP officers will flat out lie and tell you that the law does not exist because they have no say over anything you do on private property if you follow the rules. Make sure your permission slip has all the I dotted and the Ts crossed. The gameys will crawl all over your slip looking for an error to write you up on.

    That is not the full law but one subsection. If you have any questions take it to a lawyer and pay a few dollars to have it explained to you.

    As far as asking OSP about any game laws they dont know or they will lie to you to catch you breaking a law.
     
  17. gunfreak

    gunfreak Boise Well-Known Member

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    Yeah we aren't trapping them, were slaying them with 12 gauge, semi auto .45 carbines and the occasional .22
     
  18. raisersedge

    raisersedge backwoods Member

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    It is not about trapping them. Just that you dont have to follow the game regs if it falls under this law. No hunting license,no bag limit, no shooting hours, traps ,spotlights, night vision, they all work.
     
  19. Angler

    Angler North Bend, OR Active Member

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    We spotlight on private land.
     
  20. foomanchu

    foomanchu Milwaukie, OR Member

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    I would like to take a trip later this month during Spring break with my wife and youngest brother to do some rabbit/varmint hunting. We live in the Portland area, can anyone recommend a place within a few hours drive that has public land where we could camp for a week and find a lot of critters?