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S & W Revolver FTF Question

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Moduspocus, Aug 25, 2013.

  1. Moduspocus

    Moduspocus PNW New Member

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    Had my trusty Model 27 out today and got about 10 FTF out of 100 rounds. NEver had this happen before. The only thi g I can think of is the ammo. Was using 158 gr LSWC from Magtech. Primer strikes looked good. Deep and centered. All of the rounds except 1 eventually fired, but some required as many as 4 tries.

    I'm not the original owner (it's a Model 27 no dash) but not aware of any trigger or spring work. The screw on the front strap is tight.

    During this same trip I fired some Blazer 357 with no issues.

    I found some info on google that suggests the primers are harder than normal with Magtech 38 special.

    Ideas or comments?
     
  2. sheepdip

    sheepdip Redland Well-Known Member

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    bad ammo.
     
  3. orygun

    orygun West Linn Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The only time I had trouble igniting ammo was with Magtech, well, not counting some crappy Wolf 45 ACP. And this was in a gun that was otherwise flawless. I'd question the ammo before I'd worry about the gun.
    I've also shot some Magtech that was fine, but I'll not buy anymore.
    It will be interesting to see what others have to say.
     
  4. Nutty4Guns

    Nutty4Guns Portland ADHD Superstar

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    Agreed. If the primer strikes are deep and centered, it has to be an ammo problem.
     
  5. coop44

    coop44 Tacoma ,WA Well-Known Member

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    from your description this sounds like an ammo problem. you may want to acquire a new hammer spring. personally I would stick to the softer primer ammo. some folks shorten the strain screw (the screw on the front of the grip frame) to lessen the d/a trigger pull, if you are not the original owner this may be the case. both of these parts are available through gunpartscorp.com pretty cheap.
     
  6. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If the primers are nicely dented, should be the ammo!
     
  7. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    it's the ammo,had some,didin't like it .
     
  8. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    That. Since you are not the original owner, just conduct this simple check: remove the grips and check that the main spring has a visible bow. If straight or almost straight, first try tightening the main spring tension screw. If that's not enough to put a bow on the spring, then the the screw has been overly cut. Replace as indicated above. While at it you may also want to replace the main spring with a Reduced Power main and rebound spring from Wolff spring and do half-of-a-trigger-job
     
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  9. Moduspocus

    Moduspocus PNW New Member

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    Well, I had this revolver out today and now I think there is something wrong with the revolver. Over the past few weeks I've shot this same ammo through 3 other 357 or 38, all S&W and it worked fine. Today the ammo didn't work so great. Probably averaged 1 ftf each cylinder. In most cases a second strike would go bang.

    I do thnk now that the ftf rounds do NOT have as deep as a primer strike as the ones that go bang the first time. I came home and noticed the strain screw on the front of the grip was 1/2 to 3/4 turn loose. I tightened up as much as possible. I'm Hoping this solves the problem, but if not what else can I try?

    Whoops

    I just saw the previous post to take the grips off and inspect. I'll do that first. Sorry I missed it the first time.
     
  10. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Magtech, had the same issue with a batch. Every S & W with adjustable hammer power has a slightly different lb-age and the mag tech tests that to the limit. Try getting it to max, or repair then try again
     
  11. Flopsweat

    Flopsweat Slightly right of center Well-Known Member

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    I've only shot Magtech in 9, 40 and 45, but I've never had a problem with it. I've probably shot over 5000 rounds of the stuff. Herter's and S&B are the ones that have given me trouble.
     
  12. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    Did have one Herters squib recently in 7.62 x 39.. no or almost no powder