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S&W Model 19 trigger question.

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Grunwald, May 8, 2011.

  1. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I just picked up a S&W Model 19-4, but the trigger does not seem right to me.
    When I start pulling it, it moves fine the first 20% or so of the travel distance, then kind of catches, then releases from whatever that catch issue is and travels the remaining 80% or so just fine.
    This is my first S&W wheel gun and I've read all the people praising their triggers, so there must be something not right with mine.
    Any ideas?

    (the issue I've described occurs in DA)
     
  2. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    It is definitely not normal. It could be the result of a botched trigger job or simply a worn/dirty/dry mechanism. If you are comfortable doing so, it is easy to take the side plate off and examine the mechanism. There is a lot of information on the web, including YouTube, to show you how to do it.

    DO NOT TAKE OUT THE SCREWS AND TRY TO PRY OFF THE SIDE PLATE. It is easier than that and you won't mark your plate. You should use screwdrivers that are designed to fit the screws to avoid marking the screws. There's a lot of great information at www.smith-wessonforum.com, too.

    There are some gunsmiths in town who can take a quick look, too. I recommend Jim at West Coast Armory's range location in South Bellevue.
     
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  3. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    The problem sounds like the transition from the double action sear to the trigger cam is worn, dirty or been screwed with.
     
  4. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    I guess I better open it up and see what is going on in there. I doubt that it is wear. The gun is cosmetically in very good shape and does not look like been used or carried much.
     
  5. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    Seen that before or similar. Could be any of the things mentioned above or any number of other causes. Best to have someone familiar with Smiths take a look.
     
  6. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Took the side plate off yesterday and took a look inside. I also paid closer attention to the trigger travel. First I was wrong about the 20% travel. What is actually going on is that there is a tiny bit of play when you start pulling the trigger and then it clicks. I cannot tell 100% what the click is, but it is definitely something releasing and it seems to me that it is whatever locks the cylinder in place.
    The mechanics look clean and oiled, so there is no dirt in there. I did not want to start taking the mechanism apart, even though I am mechanically inclined, I was just not in a mood for a new adventure. I guess I will take it to a Smith smith.
    Rodell suggested one in Bellevue, but if anyone knows of someone who's between north Seattle and Everett, I would much prefer to stick to that area.
     
  7. Browning55

    Browning55 Seattle-Everett Area Active Member

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    From the description, it seems like the first click you hear is the cylinder bolt. That part is normal. Without actually seeing things, I'd guess the point at which it seems something "catches" is the hand engaging the extractor lugs. Many times it's a combination of things that need to be smoothed out - trigger/hammer engagement, rebound slide, lug burrs, hand window, etc. I'm also between Seattle and Everett and know that Sam's (on 128th SW) has a smith that seems to be part time but that's OK.