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What's the point? The Shield is for CC and the optic isn't going to help with that.
Not for you maybe, but for some of us more 'seasoned' folk they work just fine.
What's the point? The Shield is for CC and the optic isn't going to help with that.
Um...there's a whole lot of people...many professional trainers...that would disagree with you. I can understand if you personally don't care for red dots. But your statement is just comical.
I'm not sure what you mean by more "seasoned".....
Something I always thought was interesting with red dots, especially on pistols, is when the red dot is on target, so are the iron sights. So really it becomes an exercise in muscle memory as much as it does sight alignment because with enough practice, presenting on target becomes fairly natural even without looking specifically at and aligning the sights.
Not knocking red dots, I believe they have their place, but when I experienced pistols with mounted red dots it seemed to me that the same muscle memory used to put a red dot on target 100% mimicked what was needed to put iron sights on target.
The difference between the handguns and rifles being that with rifles generally we are working with a longer sight radius leading more distance to be lined up, compared to the 4-6 inches on a pistol that can be done just with proper mechanics without even looking at the sights.
Wow. I can't make a comment about increasing its size as a CC without you calling it "comical"? Your lack of understanding what I'm saying is comical.
You can absolutely make a comment about red dots increasing the size of a CC gun. Just like I can say I find your statement comical.
Red dots do increase the "footprint" a little...but not in any of the meaningful areas that make the gun harder to conceal. Hence...I see comedy.
LMAO-I needed that.I'm here all week. Be sure to tip your waitress.
The holster will certainly have to be much larger to accommodate the optic.
Well said. CC firearms should be as fast as possible and probably will be more "point shot" if someone actually has to use it to defend themself.
My point to my original post was why not add an optic to the compact series or another one of their offerings? The Shield was purpose built to conceal deep and well even with smaller framed folks. Adding the optic certainly isn't going to help it print any less. Certainly not knocking the M&P's. I just bought a 5" 9mm this last weekend.
Wow. I can't make a comment about increasing its size as a CC without you calling it "comical"? Your lack of understanding what I'm saying is comical.
You are dealing with "get off my lawn" OLD PEOPLE here
Seriously though I LOVE this idea. Is the pistol bigger? Of course. My eye's and iron sights do not always go together well any more. In the right lighting I can still use irons well. In many situations any more the damn front sight literally just is not there any more for me. I mean I have to STRAIN to make out the damn front sight and target. So for me there is optics, lasers, point shooting. Point shooting is something I just have never been good at. Have burned a train car of ammo trying. Some are VERY good at it and don't understand why others are not. It is just a talent. Sadly I do not poses it and no amount of practice makes me good enough to want to have to use it at any real distance. So Laser. I love those, many hate on them, fine with me, don't own stock in them. Last optics. Now those I LOVE. A "carry gun" with one is VERY tempting to me. Many will never be in the same situation. Some are blessed with eyes that do not age as badly. Wife for an example is a year older than me and still does not need readers or bi focal. Others are natural point shooters who can hone this skill to very good, I can't. I suspect these pistols optic ready, at prices that are in the same "area" as others are going to be a hit, big hit. They will certainly not be for everyone but, I know I like the idea