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Russian Ammo

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by slimer13, Mar 7, 2014.

  1. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    Any thoughts about how the situation in Ukraine and our deteriorating relationship with Russia could affect the importation of cheap Russian ammo?
     
  2. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Could get shut off by the Oblamer gov't.

    I ordered another 1,000 rds last Sun., should be here today.


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  3. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Posted earlier in chat that the ammo is not going to be coming over anymore. Warsaw Arms said he talked with a supplier and it is done for now.
     
  4. slimer13

    slimer13 Deer Park Well-Known Member

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    This article seems to say those rumors are unsubstantiated and that we are our own worst enemies and falling victim to the old cycle od panic/horde/shortage.

    Is the x39 world coming to an end? | The Bang Switch
     
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  5. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Yeah who knows just relaying what I read earlier. I myself do not own a AK anymore so no big deal to me. My only hope is maybe everyone will go after the 7.62 now and take some pressure off the .22 market:laugh:
     
  6. revjen45

    revjen45 Snohomish County Well-Known Member

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    Does anybody know where I can purchase 7.62X54R spam cans anywhere close to Everett/Seattle?
     
  7. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yep, buying some if itll hold till monday.
     
  8. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I don't have any AK's either, just a Draco pistol and a SIG556R.


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  9. ch139

    ch139 teh gehtoe Active Member

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    Just me, but figure the Russian gun food will dry up as things get bad for Russia and the Ukraine... hope they're able to get things sorted out soon without more people being hurt. Once things do get ironed out I imagine ammo will flow once again. I hope.
     
  10. spectra

    spectra The Couve Moderator Staff Member Bronze Supporter

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    Are these guys close? Ammo-Rifle - 7.62x54R - Surplus Ammo Don't go up north to much so not sure?
     
  11. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Well I guess this was the right push to purchase a Yugo M85
    Benefit, .223/5.56cal & Compact and i could always add an "arm brace".
     
  12. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Well, I've got several 1,000 rds of .223/5.56 (which ARE NOT the same round BTW) and an AR but since 7.62X39 was much cheaper I "expanded" into it.


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  13. HarryHaller

    HarryHaller Kalama, WA Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    This sounds like chicken little panic inducing to drive up ammo prices again. I don't see why they'd stop exporting ammo produced for the commercial market.
     
  14. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Yes, I know. LoL
    Its (the Yugo PAP M85 pistol) chambered for 5.56 but can utilize .223..
    Come on brother this aint my first rodeo.. we all know most of us mark 5.56 chambered platforms .233/5.56 when refering to a 5.56 chambered platform instead if wasting more key strokes and mentioning that its chambered for 5.56 but can utilize .223. Sheeeeesh. :p

    Im heavily invested in 7.62x39 but after all, ammo is a finite resourse and without a steady supply (potentially) we'll run into another .22 and 9mm shortage all over again.

    As to the post below yours, the same was said before the ammo panic/hoarding of .22 and 9mm.. Folks said itd be fine, its crazy to be ahead of the game.. Etc..
    A proactive approach would be buying some and seeing what happens. I however will find another new toy but still within the AK realm but chambered for a very common domestic caliber. Ive got quite a bit of BOTH .223 AND 5.56 (happy Deen? :)) so I may as well just hold onto my 7.62x39 and see what happens for now.

    All stores online still have a massive supply IN STOCK so no worries.

    Given our likelihood to panic.. All itll take is one real push to set off the ammo panic for 5.45 and 7.62x39.. A blind man could see this is coming. Its not paranoia, its realism.
     
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  15. HarryHaller

    HarryHaller Kalama, WA Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I'm saying always have supply on hand, but don't help perpetuate a rumor and create a shortage due to panic buying, like 9mm and 22. All of these rumors are coming from websites with silver, gold or bullion in the title. Looks to me like commodities investors are adding ammo to their portfolio, and trying to drive up prices with spurious information about ammo supplies drying up. By perpetuating unsubstantiated rumors like these you're not helping anyone, you might be cutting the throat of the shooting community by driving ammo costs out of most people's price ranges.
     
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  16. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    No worries.. we'll reciprocate with crimping off shipments marshmallows.. that'll teach those filthy reds!
     
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  17. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Thats one theory.
    However, the fact of the matter is WILL they continue commercial ammo production and transport in both countries?

    Odds are it will have no effect.
    However an EO from the POTUS can easily stop the importation of ammo from russia.

    If folks dont pay OVER previous market value for said ammo then no price increases should occure other than from supply and demand when numbers get low (or rumored to be).
    With .22 folks saw a market for what others would be "willing" to pay.
    Often new shooters or those with little to none .22 on hand.

    With 7.62x39, the only thing to really shake my cage is if imported ammo would be embargoed and we'll have to wait 1-2 years for domestic production to catch up.
    And even then, Im not paying more than I would have paid right now.
    If prices spike, farggettaboutit. AK guys can be cheap, and in an ammo panic, thats a good thing.. I aint paying $10-20 per box of Tula steel cased 7.62x39..
    So, as long as "flippers" dont make a quick buck, Im quite sure demand will keep steady and prices will hold even with a minor surge of panic.

    Im quite sure us guys here do their research and dont buy into the "hype".. Anyone who listens to a supplyer for their advice while shelling out AMV (above market value) for fear of a shortage or panic for an item deserves to overpay.

    I am however covering my bases and purchasing an order sooner than I would have anyway,
    Thats all.
     
  18. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I think economic and trade sanctions are essentially our only "big stick" regarding the Russia/Ukraine situation.
     
  19. Grunwald

    Grunwald Out of that nut job colony of Seattle, WA Well-Known Member

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    Let's not forget that a lot of the R caliber surplus comes from other countries besides Russia.
     
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  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    If we stop importing it they'll have more ammo to kill each other with.. Obama's smart like that! lol
     
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