Oregon Rural Oregon Accounting and Representation (ROAR) Initiative

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  1. RaceFan

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    ROAR would amend existing law to require a two-thirds vote by the Oregon Legislature and three-fourths popular vote to make any changes to the Oregon Constitution. Currently, once an initiative amendment to its constitution has been placed on the ballot by initiative petition, or once a legislative amendment has been referred to the people by a simple majority vote in the state legislature, a simple majority of favorable votes is enough to ratify it.

    By effecting this change, Oregon would align with the US Constitution where a two-thirds vote in Congress and ratification by three-fourths of the states is required for a Constitutional Amendment.

    This gives less populated areas an even voice, and is intended to protect ALL sections the Oregon Bill of Rights. You know, things like Freedom of Worship; Freedom of speech and press; Unreasonable Search and Seizures; etc...:D

    "Ensuring Oregon (our) freedoms for generations!"

    Now who wouldn't want that?
     
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    You’ll lose people because the name implies “country folk” are trying to silence the “city folk” who are more numerous and “smarter than everyone”.... just ask them. ;)
     
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    I feel this could be of great benefit. When you look at the oregon political party map from mid terms there is a lot more red space, unfortunately the in state elections are by populist vote so even tho more counties vote red, the fact a large population density trumps your vote and determines outcomes is how its currently played.

    If this were to become an IP i would sign it in favor. On the ballot we had 104 but that was voted out of. Oregon now holds super majority in house/senate/governor as such because of a three fifths majority they dont need republican votes to pass things like new taxes etc. Now imagine this when it comes around to the 2A and youve got Kate Brown who favors a AWB and groups like LEVO and ceasefire oregon ready to infringe in 2019 foaming at the mouth.
     
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    My personal opinion; and will never happen, unless the People forcibly change the State government somehow....
    repeal the proportional State Senate districts in favor for a County based Senate district, in which there is 1 Senator per County. This would mean that Wheeler County, the least populous County in Oregon with a population of 1443 (Census 2010), would have 1 Senator, the same as Multnomah County. It would follow then that the Oregon Senate would be made up of 36 Senators, 1 for each County (as opposed to currently 30 Districts, each divided by population, same as Representatives in Oregon House) This follows the US Congress makeup; in which 50 States have 2 Senators each, and the House of Reps are supposed to have the proportional number for Districts (not quite proportional these days, with 700,000 population per House Rep but that's a different, related can of worms). On one hand, it would mean a R majority, maybe even a R supermajority in the Oregon Senate, on the other hand, it would mean that elections for the Oregon Senate would become that much more important for the parties involved, and it might open up the possibility of Oregon Senate becoming more diverse party-wise. (Constitution, Progressive, Independent, Green, Republican, Democrat).

    This ROAR Initiative on the face, seems a good idea, requiring only 6-7% more votes, in addition to a 75% Populist vote to make changes to the Oregon Constitution.. but the problem is that as it stands, with a 3/5 (60%) supermajority in the House, and a majority in the Senate, it is not going to get out of committee onto the ballot, and they can just make new laws abusing the Emergency Clause, which is going to be a fact of life in Oregon 2019 :mad:
     
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    This thread is intended to seed and enlist ideas on how a change can be affected. We know the agenda. What can be done to not just hold back the needle, but move it the other way?

    "From the acorn grew the mighty oak."
     
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    First and foremost id say by trying to educate more people on the matter about how important local politics are and what they do/mean etc. A more open network for ideas to be shared and discussed between both party lines and less censoring like social medias been doing.

    Think like when someone buys a house or a car. they like to make informed decisions
     
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    Regional Oregon Accounting and Representation :)
     
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    Reminder: The US was formed over taxation and no representation from parliament with the British.
     
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