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Reloading .45 acp

Discussion in 'Ammunition & Reloading' started by Oregonhunter5, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Guys. I am new to reloading. I did some .223 and .270.
    Today I want to do .45 acp. There are 3 pieces of dies in the set.
    So, is it different than loading a rifle shell?
     
  2. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Straight walled cases need three dies. They also provide a lot of flexibility when it comes to adjusting the expanding die when loading jacketed versus cast. Also, the carbide dies make lubing cases optional.
     
  3. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    size and deprime with 1st die,flare the case neck a b it with the second,and seat/crimp with the third.that is how most work,there is an exception with older rcbs dies.
    I prefer to buy a seperate crimp die,makes adjust ing the depth or crimp a lot easier,but u can do it with the one die.
    one diff is rifle dies don't flare the case mouth,most all pistol dies do.Just enuff to set the bullet on is all u need.
    any time u change bullet types,u end up having to re adjust the seat//crimp die,that is when uj will see what I mean about 2 dies for those operations.
     
  4. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    So no lube with pistol reloading?
     
  5. sneakboxer

    sneakboxer NW OR Active Member

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    You got it, no lube required with carbide pistol dies. However, i think a small amount of lube on every 5th case makes loading alot smoother. But that is with long 357mag cases fired in a sloppy Marlin chamber.
     
  6. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    agree,I keep a few LIGHTLY lubed cases..just near the top..near the presss and grab one every now and then.with 45acp u almost can't tell the difffeence,with my 45 colt rounds it's a whole 'nuther thing,it do make a difference with those.
    what brand dies did u get,and what kind of press are you using. ? hunter5
     
  7. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Here's an issue.
    I have large pistol primers. But these spent brass seem like they need small primer.
    What should I do?
    Jam it in there?
     
  8. Phrank

    Phrank Forest Grove Active Member

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    No, don't force it, it won't work. There are small pistol primer pocket .45 now so it's become a large pain in the ### to deal with that in regards to .45 loading. Best bet is to choose one size or the other and trade / sell the remainder off.
     
  9. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Can I use small rifle in the .45acp?
     
  10. Phrank

    Phrank Forest Grove Active Member

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    Also, if you're anywhere near Aloha, I'd be happy to work a 1:1 trade on the brass to keep you going.
     
  11. Phrank

    Phrank Forest Grove Active Member

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    I've heard it's possible, but I have no first hand experience so will have to defer to those with more knowledge.
     
  12. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Thanks!
    I'm a few hours away from aloha.
    How do we know we are ordering the right brass online if we can't see the primer size?
     
  13. Benihaus

    Benihaus Portland American

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    couple things to keep in mind with .45acp. Your powder will fill the case less than halfway so it is possible to double charge the case and not feel it when seating the bullet... just be aware of that. .45 acp head spaces off of the case mouth so crimping should be done cautiously and check by dropping a finished bullet into the the barrel and listen for a solid plunk. and apparently small rifle works but they are harder therefor if your gun does not have a very solid firing pin strike they probably wont work well.
     
  14. MilitantBEEMER

    MilitantBEEMER Eugene Silver Supporter Silver Supporter

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    You can use small pistol in 45acp brass that is small pistol brass. Alot of the newer bulk ammo is small pistol primer. You need to visually inspect each piece and sort by small primer and large primer pocket. They are NOT interchangeable.
     
  15. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    SRP are a bit harder. I found out the hard way. I once accidentally used them for 38spc and failed to ignite.
     
  16. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    If you have time, help me understand this crimping thing in more detail. I use rcbs dies and rock chucked.
     
  17. saxon

    saxon springfield Active Member

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    Generally, crimping on 45 is to just remove the belling of the case mouth so the gun feeds and chambers reliably. Measured at the mouth, .469" to .470"
     
  18. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    small rifle primers are 'hotter' than small pistol,because rifle ammo takes more powdeer per charge,and thus need a hotter flame for proper ignitiion.
    using them in a pistol round could easily lead to an overpressure spike,is the general consensus on this.I would never use them in a pistol round not specifically designed for them,like the .454 Casull.
    crimping means to squeeze the case mouth againgst the projectiel. in the case of jacketed bullets,you use a 'taper crimp' to just snug the brass up to the bullet.
    for cast lead bullets with a crimp groove,.you use a 'roll crimp' to 'roll' the case mouth slightly into the groove on the bullet.
     
  19. netcarrier

    netcarrier Portland, Oregon Active Member

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    Hi Oregonhunter5,

    If you want to check out the Whole Reloading thing buy the DVD "Precisioneered Handloading" out by RCBS you can fine it at Bi-Mart for about $10.00. The DVD shows Handguns, Rifles, & Shotgun reloading.
    Once you have this you can view it before reloading to make sure that you are doing it wright.

    Tony Portland, Oregon Area
     
  20. HappyRoman

    HappyRoman Sherwood Forest Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Using small rifle primers in the small pistol pocket SHOULD be just fine, the problems that could happen are only 2, that I know.
    1st. primer cap could actually be to hard for your 45. If so, your out of business there,
    2nd, if worried, it might be to hot, just reduce 45 load by 1/2---> 1 grain powder, on 5 rds. test fire these, if no primer pressure signs, (flattened primer) then you good to go, even add back 1/2 -1 grain back to original load.. just my .o2c