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Reliability package on a handgun

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Oregonhunter5, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Buddy of mine is a cop. He needs a reliability package on his 1911 for work.
    I stopped by the gunsmith in Coquille today. The name of the company is Pisco. Ken there is a great guy! Anyway as we know there's a lot of hack jobs for gunsmiths these days. Like a lot of things.
    My last thought is, do we as ccl folks, or home owners think about these reliability jobs for the guns?
    I never did.
     
  2. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    What exactly is a "reliability" package? I have a lot of guns that are reliable and none have a package............

    Why did you buddy guy a tool that was not the right tool for his job?
     
  3. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I'm going avoid the package comment. It's bad for my heterosexual lifestyle.
    But the reliability thing is in regards to your gun Always working, aside from idiot owner. Like it will cycle any ammo, unless the due from sling blade reloaded it. My buddies gun would shoot three magazines worth, then the slide wouldnt engage all the way.
    That's a problem in battle.
    I'm sure there's other much smarter people here, that have more details.
     
  4. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I'm going avoid the package comment. It's bad for my heterosexual lifestyle.
    But the reliability thing is in regards to your gun Always working, aside from idiot owner. Like it will cycle any ammo, unless the due from sling blade reloaded it. My buddies gun would shoot three magazines worth, then the slide wouldnt engage all the way.
    That's a problem in battle.
    I'm sure there's other much smarter people here, that have more details.
     
  5. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    Why did he buy a gun that is not reliable? Why is he not pissed that it does not work properly and send it back? What makes what the gunsmith does to it reliable?
     
  6. phidelt208

    phidelt208 Springfield, OR Active Member

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    I just make sure to rub my guns down with a nice coat of "reliability oil" and they are good to go.
    I'll sell you some $49.99.................. :confused: or trade for a 70 dollar Pmag.
     
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  7. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    Good question.
    From what I've heard, no gun is reliable. So being a cop, this extra work, is a life saver.
     
  8. lv1986

    lv1986 SW WA New Member

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    glocks or xds, definition of reliable.
     
  9. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    I agree on that!
    This gunsmith said the Springfield xd is better than glocks.
    I like my glocks and my kimber.
    But if I'm aiming to make sure I stop a perp, I'm grabbing the 1911
     
  10. Nwcid

    Nwcid Yakima and N of Spokane Well-Known Member

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    If you say so. IMHO ANY gun that needs work to be "reliable" is NOT a gun I will be using for anything other then target practice.

    I am not trying to beat you up here but you keep contradicting yourself. First you say no gun is reliable, but then apparently after being worked on it will be.........?????


    How does one type of gun stop a "perp" better then another? Are you saying that a .45 acp delivered from a Glock is not as good as a .45 acp delivered from a 1911?
     
  11. WashCoDad

    WashCoDad Beanerton Active Member

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    Maybe he needs all the safeties removed from his 1911 to get it to be simple like a Glock ?
     
  12. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    :bluelaugh:. I almost sit this one out. But the guys are being facetious instead of helpful. :D

    I have included here a link to an NRA magazine article that might prove useful to you. I've done most of the tuning suggested here on my mil spec springer and have been very effective.

    Tuning the M1911 for Reliability

    Then, shoot several boxes (~200) of the SD ammo you intend to use. Call it good if you get zero fails. Some firearms can be picky with 8rd mags.
     
  13. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Back in the Jurassic when 1911s were Colts guys would buy Gold Cups for their sights and have smiths loosen up the tolerances so that they would function reliably in dirt with ball ammo. Kind of reverse accurizing. Government models etc had really rudimentary sights back in the day. Closest thing I have heard of to the OP's question.
     
  14. willseeker

    willseeker N. Portland. Well-Known Member

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    Please see attached for tutorial.
    GLOCK vs XD - YouTube

    Be well,
    Will
     
  15. Oregonhunter5

    Oregonhunter5 2C IDAHO Well-Known Member

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    You don't affect me..
    I'm a big boy.
    I think my buddy and his fellow officers, are really careful and picky about making sure there ins are reliable. He and I, and most others, have picky guns. I'm sure you have seen that. He likes this gun a lot. But, after 3 double stack mags have been run through the gun, the slide starts to stick, and not close all the way. Then he has to push the slide with his thumb to engage it fully. The gunsmith told me today that's not exceptible. The gunsmith also said, Most guns need work, to make them right.
    In regards to my comment about using my 1911 in the heat of battle. Let me clear up your confusion. The 1911 just feels better in my hand, and I'm much more accurate with it. But your right also, in saying a .45 is a .45. They all kill the same. Again I just feel more confident with a 1911 in my hand.
     
  16. teflon97239

    teflon97239 Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    I ended up with an extra spring and guide in my Gold Cup so it handled heavier ball ammo and hotter loads better. I flat wore that gun out, and it needed new parts eventually to remain reliable.

    My current 1911 was fine in stock trim from the factory, but there are a number of things the guy who built it up for me did to make it slicker 'n snot on a brass doorknob with anything I feed it. Plus some other specific features I like for speed and accuracy. Not sure if that qualifies as a "reliability package," but I've got an open mind and could see a gunsmith or shop advertizing a package of similar upgrades in such a manner.