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Redicuolusly long range... for a handgun.

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by Greenbug, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Anybody else out there try shooting at extreme ranges with their handgun?
    I pretty regularly shoot at 100 to 150 yards with my handguns. The other day I was out shooting in the desert with some friends and decided to try some 200ish yard shots with my 6" 38 special revolver. I picked out a stick that looked like it was about maybe 2" diameter and about a foot long that was lying on a sand berm I ranged at 170 yards. I had a friend spotting with binoculars while I began to shoot at it. The first shot was not too far off, good left to right and only about a foot and a half low. By the third shot I broke the stick in two pieces, I think I'm hooked, it was really fun! My friends were shooting their AR's at a steel plate they had set up at 525 yards, so I gave that a few rounds with the 38, but we couldn't see the bullet impact well enough to compensate for the extreme range. I think I need more dry dirt/sand between me and the target to know where to hold.
    After I got home I began to think more about it, so I decided to plug some bullet data into my ballistics software. With the load I am using in my 38 special: 125 grain plated flat point bullets .150 B.C. at 900 F.P.S. with about a 100 yard zero the software says I have a 627" drop at 500 yards..... Hmmm.... How much hold over would I need to make a hit at 500 yards? And how do I accomplish that hold with iron sights on my 6" model 14 S&W?

    Any experience with this out there? If not you should really try it, it is really fun!
     
  2. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I guess this guy does ;-)
     
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  3. Gaucho Gringo

    Gaucho Gringo Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Read Elmer Keith's book "Sixguns". It will tell you a lot about long range handgun shooting. And this guy is a joke in comparison to Keith.
     
  4. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    He is a funny dude, but I would not call him a joke... S&W will not put his name on a revolver edition as a joke.
     
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  5. Blackcobra

    Blackcobra Camas Platinum Supporter Platinum Supporter

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    Far from a joke!
     
  6. Salps

    Salps Down by the river…. Well-Known Member

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    I do it from time to time with my GP100 SS 5 inch. Nice to take some clay birds out to about 100 yards.


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  7. rick benjamin

    rick benjamin USA, Or, Damascus Secure the drama Silver Supporter 2016 Volunteer

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  8. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I've hit steel with my Glock 17 at 500 yards.

    I'm not going to tell you how many rounds went in that direction before I got a "ding"
     
  9. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    How much holdover did you have to use?

     
  10. Reno911

    Reno911 Hillsboro Well-Known Member 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Roughly 40 feet. Give or take. We plugged all the info into a ballistics calculator for poops and giggles. Then proceeded to waist ammo trying.
     
  11. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Common.....Lets get real :rolleyes: There's practical shooting :p Then there's "Lagging and Luck":confused:

    When I send one out there, if it isn't a hit, at least I know it came close enough to make the target flinch.:eek:

    Otherwise I don't shoot.:cool:
     
  12. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Maybe it is a little unrealistic, but I'm kinda bored with the long range rifle thing. This seems like a new challenge to me. It's not about practicality, it's about entertainment! The whole idea of hitting a target at 10 times the intended outside range of a weapon is really interesting to me. No scope, bi-pod, super high ballistic coefficient bullets at break neck speeds.... Just a simple revolver, iron sights, steady hands and your determination to get it done.
     
  13. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you really want to lob some lead out there....One of the replica 45/70 trapdoors, or a replica High Wall ala Quiggly is the way to go. A good "Tang" mounted veiner sight and you're in business.:D

    I'm sure my .458S will lob out the lead, but I try to keep it under 200yards.;)

    .38Spl., 4 3/4" barrel, 145gr.HP and 3.5 gr. of BullsEye. 12-14" drop at 100Yards. Surprised more than one jackrabbit.:p
     
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  14. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Just loaded up some 9mm 124gr plated round nose bullets in some 38 special cases. Maybe the slightly better ballistic profile will give me a little less drop to deal with....
     
  15. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You might be a little disappointed in the results. :confused:
    I had some 115gr. spire point 9mm I loaded into .38Spl. and it was like jabbing those big bunny's with a pencil. :eek:

    If you didn't hit a bone, it took them a while to realize they were dead.:confused:
     
  16. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the steel gong is going to notice weather it is dead or not.... No bunnies will be harmed in this experiment... at least I don't think they will be.;)

    How was the accuracy of the 9mm slugs out of your 38?
     
  17. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    They were minute of Jackrabbit at 50 yds. (Aim for the head) Never did put them on paper. Gave up on them after one time out and ordered a 145 gr. HP mold from Lyman. Use the same bullet in my 9mm.:)
     
  18. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    Ok, I figured they wouldn't be as accurate as I need them to be, but I'll go shoot them and see if it is worth pursuing further...
     
  19. dwaineshort

    dwaineshort Vancouver WA Active Member

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    Jerry has a video of him hitting a target at 1000 yards with one of his revolver. But then again he a joke, he only has 5 world records.
     
  20. Greenbug

    Greenbug Bend Well-Known Member

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    I saw that one... a baloon on a steel plate about the same size I am going to shoot at. I believe it was one of his new 9mm revolvers. Most likely bullet splash causing the baloon to pop, but a great shot none the less.