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Range Rule: Can't Rent If You Are Alone?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by rodell, Aug 29, 2010.

  1. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    I've run across versions of this a couple of times in the last month. The rule is either (1) you can't rent one of their firearms if you are alone, or (2) If you are alone, you have to have brought your own weapon in order to rent one of theirs.

    Neither of these make sense. I always have my own weapons and am unaffected, but, I wonder about what's behind the rule. I asked, politely, both times and got the "that's our policy" with a(n un)healthy dose of attitude. I completely respect their right to make the rules, I just wonder what that particular rule accomplishes.

    Does anyone know, or, care to speculate?
     
  2. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    One word, suicide....
     
  3. timbernet

    timbernet Boring, Oregon Member

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    I don't agree with the "if you are alone" -- but I completely understand the whole you must bring one to rent one.... they figure why would you rent a gun to kill yourself if you have one of your own.
     
  4. pirateer2007

    pirateer2007 Spokane Wa Member

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    nailed it :thumbup:
     
  5. HalfNutz

    HalfNutz Kirkland (Juanita) Member

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    Wades's in Bellevue, WA has that rule in effect. Too many mentally disturbed folks were renting pistols and then whacking themselves with them. They figure that is less likely to happen if you are with a group.
     
  6. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Wait...does that mean if I show up with a friend and he offs himself it's considered assisted suicide? Will I have any complicity in the event? Hmmmmm!
     
  7. SleepynSeattle

    SleepynSeattle Seattle Member

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    Well....Wade's has also had at least one murder behind a rented handgun, and an accidental discharge death as well. What I've always wondered is.........after those guns were returned from the evidence locker, were they sold for discount, or destroyed? I'd take a super discount on a body count weapon. Call me morbid, but at least you KNOW it functions properly.
     
  8. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I think there was a guy in Florida that did this not too long ago.Went in the range and shot himself in the head. Apparently it's bad for business.
     
  9. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    That is completely stupid.
     
  10. spengo

    spengo GLORIOUS CASCADIA Active Member

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    WELL, that makes sense from a business standpoint, but it is annoying to regular range-goers. Personally I'd rather just let social darwinism run its course but maybe if I owned a range I would think differently (They have to deal with a crapload of bullturd legal junk whenever that happens I bet).
     
  11. ak56

    ak56 Carnation, Wa Active Member

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    This is not an uncommon occurance.

    If you want to rent at Wade's it's either bring your own or bring a friend. I shoot at Wade's and usually bring both my wife and our own gun. Plus by bringing my wife and going on ladies night, I get to play with all of their rental handguns for free!
     
  12. CHLChris

    CHLChris Portland Metro East Love me some guns! Bronze Supporter

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    At The Place To Shoot in Delta Park, they require the same things. Bring your own, then you can rent. Or come with a friend, then you can rent. Here is how they word it (plain writing):

    I think the way they word it is great. They don't really need a reason anyway. A public business can make any rule they want. If someone doesn't even have a friend they could bring, that says something right there.
     
  13. Wenis

    Wenis Tri-Cities, WA Member

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    I think if you are alone AND you bring a gun with you, you should be able to rent other guns because if you were looking to off yourself, you could have done it already with the gun you already brought.

    Problem solved
     
  14. Throckmorton

    Throckmorton Florence,Ore ah gone Well-Known Member

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    the Place to Shoot had a woman commit suicide there several years ago as I recall,and that is when they put their rule in place,and others in the area followed suit.
    that is how I remember it anyway.
     
  15. TANSTAAFL

    TANSTAAFL Downtown Seattle Member

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    Saturday I went to the Kurt exhibit at the Seattle Art Museum--excellent exhibit!

    This is the land of SAD..
     
  16. PDXGS

    PDXGS Aloha... yes, Aloha, Oregon Member

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    Agreed on the suicide liability.
    This is a policy that the range insurers likely force their clients to uphold - it acts to protect the business from lawsuits in cases where an individual might try to off themselves with a rented gun.
    The gun ranges are just covering their asses- can't say that I blame them.
    J
     
  17. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Suicide, a long term solution to a short term problem
     
  18. Tornado-Technologies

    Tornado-Technologies Hillsboro Active Member

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    I have a friend who owns two ranges on the east coast. His advice to anyone planning on setting up an indoor range. Include floor drains allowing it to be hosed and mopped.
    He's had to people whack themselves so far.
     
  19. Dnaltrop

    Dnaltrop Portland, Oregon Member

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    It's a very intelligent rule.

    If you already own a gun, You would have shot yourself already.

    If you have a friend with you...

    It's not perfect (see the recent mother/son muder/suicide in a range) but if you are socializing with other people, it's at least less likely that you're of a mindset to kill yourself.

    ~~

    Just occurred to me, The prerequisite ownership of a gun for individuals at a range would also serve as a deterrent to an unarmed someone coming off the street, renting a gun and shooting the desk person to steal the armory.
     
  20. rodell

    rodell Newcastle, WA Active Member

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    Actually, it is a very short solution to a long term problem!