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Rahm Emanuel: 'videotape all gun sales'

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, May 27, 2014.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's what he wants for Chicago...and what gun grabbers will likely propose for the nation since "universal background checks" obviously aren't enough


    Did Rahm Emanuel just launch new anti-gun effort?

    Chicago’s WBBM reported this morning that Mayor Rahm Emanuel has proposed “a far-reaching ordinance” that would require any gun shops in the city to videotape every sale, and now one might wonder whether this was the backdoor launch of a new gun control scheme that will somehow be twisted to promise a reduction in violent crime.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/did-rahm-emanuel-just-launch-new-anti-gun-effort
     
  2. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Given the growth and advancements in facial recognition technology, that is one scary proposition.

    Leave it to obama's former chief of staff, and longstanding member of the chicago political machine to dream up that nightmare!
     
  3. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    And video taping would prove?
    Seriously, do they just have a hat or better yet, a backside they pull these ideas from?!
     
  4. RicInOR

    RicInOR Washington County Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Aren't they all recorded now? How many gun shops don't have security systems including video surveillance.

    Anyway, is he saying that he background check system is not working, relating to identification? I just don't get what problem a video would be solving.
     
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  5. ZA_Survivalist

    ZA_Survivalist Oregon AK's all day.

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    Thats a good point, ALL FFLs that Ive been to have a security cam..
    So what just exactly is he trying to do?
     
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  6. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    Democrats are trying to end 2A as we know it , so remember this in the midterm election...
     
  7. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    According to him:
    Yes, I am SURE there are lines of law abiding people wanting to buy a gun for a crook.
     
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  8. semperfi68to70

    semperfi68to70 South Salem, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    We should video all lies told by Rahm Emanuel, Barrack Obama, Harry Reid, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and all the other lying liberals and then put them on television for everyone to see! Oh wait, we already do that, its called Fox News!:)
     
  9. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    CCRKBA TO CHICAGO MAYOR: ‘PHOTOGRAPH CROOKED POLITICIANS, NOT GUN OWNERS’
    BELLEVUE, WA – Responding to Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s proposal that all firearm buyers in city-approved gun shops be videotaped, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms today said the mayor should instead start a photographic file of all crooked Illinois politicians instead.

    “The public might better be served by seeing images of Chicago political elitists involved in illegal activities that have put them behind bars,” said CCRKBA Chairman Alan Gottlieb. “That would be quite a rogue’s gallery and it would include a couple of former governors, an ex-congressman and a list of former Chicago aldermen convicted of all kinds of crimes including bribery, extortion, fraud, embezzlement and income tax evasion.”

    Mayor Emanuel, a perennial anti-gun extremist, wants to limit the areas where gun shops can be located, and further require that these gun shops do quarterly audits of firearm sales. The proposal to videotape gun sales is to allegedly “prevent gun trafficking and illegal sales in these stores,” according to an aide.

    “Where will this information be stored and how will it be used,” Gottlieb questioned. “This isn’t about stopping crime, and Emanuel knows it. This is about intimidating law-abiding citizens in the hopes of discouraging gun sales, and creating what amounts to a video gun registry. It won’t stop criminals from illegally obtaining firearms and it won’t stop shootings that have already made Chicago one of the most dangerous cities in the country.

    “This proposal is just one more attempt by a gun prohibitionist to prevent gun sales, period,” he continued. “We would not be surprised to see this become the new national gun control mantra; the next so-called ‘sensible’ step pandered by the gun prohibition lobby. They don’t want to prevent crime; they want to prevent gun ownership.

    “And while Emanuel and like-thinkers are treating law-abiding citizens like criminals,” Gottlieb concluded, “they’re far less interested in exposing genuine criminals in their anti-gun rights political elitist circles. Let’s see videos of Rod Blagojevich, Jesse Jackson, Jr., George Ryan and other Illinois crooks, and leave honest gun owners alone.”
     
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  10. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    I want Rahm Emanuel to drink bleach.
     
  11. Gator Monroe

    Gator Monroe Southern Cascades Well-Known Member

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    That's nice but will you vote for Conservative Constitutionalist 2A supporting Republicans in the Midterm Election ?
     
  12. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure they will make them put in big brother facial recognition cams and DVRs and have them downloaded to chicago's black boxes so anytime a crime is commited they will run it through the system.
    We started using those systems at work. They are great, but they will make the mom and pop stores buy these $20k systems they csn't afford, then put every honest firearm loving citizen into a databases for Amerikan home grown terrorist.

    They will use every avenue to put together a list of "bad" Amerikans thet want to keep an eye on.
    They are all the same and will never let this country obtain any identity of what made it the greatest country.
     
  13. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    This Rahm character makes snakes look upstanding.

    On the other idea, just because somebody has or "loves" guns doesn't automatically make them "honest citizens". That linkage always has made me go, "huh?"

    I've seen several "gun loving citizens" go up to Walla Walla state prison on criminal homicide convictions and others to Lompoc for bank robbery. Just sayin'.
     
  14. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    So I read through the whole thread to see if anyone mentioned it yet.

    For those of you who are entirely on the "consumption" side if the firearms industry, a major issue when it comes to running a firearms business is paperwork, and the at times very large practical problem of actually maintaining control of all that paperwork. You have giant cabinets of 4473's bound books, transaction reports, receipts, and all kinds of other detritus that needs to be maintained by law.

    Now Rahm "let no crisis go to waste" Emmanuel wants to complicate this, by making sure that now you need to maintain a digital record, in some type of retrievable format. This means in addition to annoying paperwork storage, now you also need to have expensive data storage. Also, video files are huge, averaging 10mb/min, how long does it take to conduct a gun transaction? 15-20 minutes? 200mb each, how many transactions per day? 10? 20? that's gigs of data per day. The NSA built a massive datacenter to store volumes of data like this, now every gun shop in Chicago does as well?
     
  15. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    The gun shop owners should invest in Super 8 movie cameras and when ATF shows up just hand them the reels. LOL Intermix a little of Uncle Georges last vacation to the Shriners convention to make the movies interesting.
     
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  16. AMProducts

    AMProducts Maple Valley, WA Jerk, Ammo Manufacturer Silver Supporter

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    Doesn't matter... once the "recording" requirement is there, anticipate large quantities of data storage being necessary.
     
  17. Jamie6.5

    Jamie6.5 Western OR Well-Known Member

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    Large amounts of data storage is really no problem theses days.
    It doesn't take max resolution in video to utilize facial recognition software, and at mid-level resolution it would be possible to put say, 8 minutes of every gun purchase on video, and store a few months or more on a thumb drive.
    Imagine how many 5-8 minute segments could be stored on a 1 TB HDD, or SSD.
    <$100.00

    It's been said that we currently have the technology to record every moment of every person's life, now living in the U.S.
    Recording a few minutes of every gun purchase for later comparison and reference would be no problem.

    Big Brother Technology is here, and has been for much of the last decade.

    Snowden was a Chihuahua in a pen full of Rottweilers and Mastiffs. If one of the big dogs had gotten loose, he'd be dead by now, and no one would have heard a peep out of him.
     
  18. Martini_Up

    Martini_Up NW USA Well-Known Member

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    I've got a gun. Come take it.
     
  19. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    Good point. Perhaps an argument can be made that obummer is already collecting this data. All that one has to do is contact the NSA and they'll have everything in one place.
     
  20. 3MTA3

    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    How about we record all of Rahm's meetings instead?
     
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