The scenario: complete economic collapse, all doctor's supplies were used up 6 months previously, ,,,,,and you've got a kidney stone that's the size of a baseball you're trying to piss out, and it's been 2 weeks. (Well, it'll be 2 weeks in 4 more days- and I've been to the ER two times) What would you do? 1 out of every 100 ER visits involve kidney stones. The pain of a kidney stone is that of child birth- which means essentially I've felt the pain of child birth for the past 10 days and I HURT. Suicide is not an option- I've had the stones for 15 years, it's just never occurred to me to ask in a "survivalist" situation what to do.