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Question for TCGC members regarding range rules & other...

Discussion in 'Outdoor Shooting Areas' started by zippygaloo, Jan 29, 2012.

  1. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    This is a question directed toward TCGC members regarding range rules. I'm a new member but forgot to ask the RSO last time I was out. My questions are:

    1. Can I walk away from a gun and leave it on the firing line while the range is hot (for instance to get something out of my range bag on the back shelf)? If yes, can I keep it loaded as long as it's pointed down range or does it need to be unloaded with a chamber flag inserted?

    2. When can you pick up brass (in front of the yellow line, but behind the firing line)? When the range is hot (and people are still shooting)? Or when the range is cold?

    3. Is it allowed or frowned upon to take the time to cover your bullet holes on targets with tape? Basically how long can you stay at a target before people start to get irritated?

    Thanks
     
  2. PDXGS

    PDXGS Aloha... yes, Aloha, Oregon Member

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    1. Not certain what the specific rules say but you should at least drop the mag and clear the chamber- I've seen several unattended guns slide off the benches and hit the ground
    2. You can pick up brass behind the firing line when the range is hot...try not to bother your fellow shooters!
    Brass pickup in front of the firing line is done when the range is cold and the flag is still out. Request that the flag tender stay at the flag and go forward of the firing line, pick up your brass or set up your chronograph- you cannot handle anything at your bench at this time- basically, grab a broom and sweep your brass back to the firing line and pick it up once the range is hot again...on your time!
    3. Be reasonable and respectful of the other shooters. Tape all you want but be reasonable and try not to be "that guy"- the guy that is always the last one back to the line or the guy who thinks it okay to set up a chronograph from scratch during a cold range. My advice is to set up two target carriers- shoot one and replace it with the other and tape the first back at the line when the line is hot, or, post two targets on one carrier, retrieve your shot target and replace it with a fresh one- then tape back at the line when it goes hot. As for chronographs...have it set up and ready to go before the range goes cold.
     
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  3. LDD

    LDD OR Member

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    PDXGS answered your other questions with what I would say.

    On #1, it depends on who the RSO is that shift. I once got yelled at for "not having a chamber flag inserted at all times." I was tempted to ask the RSO whether the 100 yard line was a gunshow or a gun range, because shooting my rifle with a chamber flag inserted would either not work, or defeat the purpose of the flag. And that was during a hot range, with folks firing on both sides of me. I hadn't walked away either, I just got done with a string and was reloading my magazine (gun was mag-out-bolt-locked-back).

    If you're going to have the mag out, action back, you might as well put a flag in.
     
  4. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    Another question.

    On the 100 and 200/300/600 rifle ranges, where do you put your rifle(s) for safe keeping when you walk down to change targets? In other words, how can you be sure to keep it from being messed with or possibly taken?
     
  5. LDD

    LDD OR Member

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    @ 600 you stay with your rifle. The other shift stays down in the pit area and changes/marks targets. Then you swap at some point and you run the targets for the shift that is shooting.

    @100, and 200/300 you just leave your stuff on the bench. I suppose you could case your stuff up and carry it with you to the targets and back. I've never felt the need to do that and no one has ever touched my gear or rifles without asking me first.

    The only thing that came remotely close to that was when some kid was taking pictures of my guns without asking first (just a common courtesy IMO).
     
  6. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    Can you draw your pistol from a holster in the Action Bays?
     
  7. the4thshake

    the4thshake Portland Active Member

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    Yes
     
  8. LDD

    LDD OR Member

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    Yes, if you are Action Range certified by the club, or shooting with a member that is (certain limitations apply).
     
  9. jasonabernathy75

    jasonabernathy75 Wilsonville Oregon Member

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    I talked to one of the RSO's today about your question of chamber flags and he had a great answer. If you need to walk away during a hot range, you should unload, make safe and chamber your flag. The reason is what if the range goes cold while your gone, others go down range and your equipment is still loaded, now you are putting others in danger. I highly agree with his reasoning and that rule. I know that is not typical, but I have seen a hot gun scenerio before.
    Action range you must be qualified. You will have to attend a one day class (40.00) and you will have to shoot one match and show you are safe. I have my cert and if you want to try the range, let me know, you can shoot it with me.
     
  10. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    What about shooting (00 Buck) shotgun in the Action Bays?
     
  11. coupeowner

    coupeowner SW Portland Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Shotguns are allowed in the action bays. Just pick up your shells. Pistol-caliber carbines are also allowed.
     
  12. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    Does "pistol caliber carbines" include AR15 .22 LR conversion kits and/or .22 LR AR platform rifles like the Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22?

    Also, what about M1 Carbines?
     
  13. jasonabernathy75

    jasonabernathy75 Wilsonville Oregon Member

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    Those are fine
     
  14. Deuce

    Deuce Portland, OR Member

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    Here's a list from TCGC range rules for the action range.

    CARTRIDGES APPROVED FOR SHOOTING IN LONG GUNS:

    Centerfire
    25 AUTO
    32 AUT
    32 S&W LONG
    327 FEDERAL MAGNUM
    32 SHORT COLT
    32 H&R MAGNUM
    32 S&W
    380 AUTO
    9mm MAKAROV
    9mm LUGER
    9x23 WIN.
    38 SUPER
    357 SIG
    38 SPECIAL
    38 S&W
    357 MAGNUM
    40 S&W
    10mm AUTO
    41 REM. MAGNUM
    44 SPECIAL
    44 REM. MAGNUM
    44-40 WIN.
    45 GAP
    45 AUTO
    45 COLT
    45 WIN. MAG.
    454 CASULL
    460 S&W
    480 RUGER
    500
    7.62x25 TOKAREV
    5.7x28mm
    30 CARBINE

    Rimfire
    17 MACH 2
    17 HMR
    22 SHORT
    22 LONG
    22 LR
    22 WIN MAG
    22 WRF
     
  15. jasonabernathy75

    jasonabernathy75 Wilsonville Oregon Member

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    Hey, speaking of, I have my action range cert but have not been to the range without doing a compition and the range is already set up. So i want to go out and do some practiceing, where do you get the card board and the targets to set up the range. I know where everything else it.
     
  16. Deuce

    Deuce Portland, OR Member

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    Cardboard and targets you have to buy yourself. Tri-County doesn't sell the cardboard that I know of, but you can buy paper targets in the clubhouse for $0.10-0.25 each.
     
  17. lowly monk

    lowly monk Beaverton, Oregon. Just a guy. Bronze Supporter

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    Hey zip, You can download there rules and regs off there website. Good questions though.
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  18. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    Couple more Action Bays questions.

    Which Action Bays are more preferable and why?

    What are the rules regarding firearms and ammo (including loading, unloading and field stripping) in the Action Bays in a non-competition practice capacity?

    Also, I noticed a sign at the Action Bays. It said "Park between the signs". I saw cars parked between the signs, but then I also saw cars parked in the actual bays. Where are you supposed to park?
     
  19. jasonabernathy75

    jasonabernathy75 Wilsonville Oregon Member

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    Zippy,
    Have you been the the Action Range Class? They tell you the rules and in the by laws of the range it also tell the ammo and firearms allowed. Parking is determined what your doing, if you on a range you can pull your car into the front of the bay. I am guessing you have not done the class and if you have not, you must to use the bays. You have to have the action range cert on your badge, no exceptions unless you go with someone who has their cert.
     
  20. zippygaloo

    zippygaloo Oregon Member

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    Do the "safety areas" (concrete slab enclosed areas) on the Action Bays only apply to competition or are they to be used at all times? In other words, can I handle a loaded or unloaded firearm outside the safety area in a non-competition setting?