I ask the question because frankly it really ticks me off. I'm being handed a semi-auto handgun with the magazine in and the gun in battery. Gun safety 101 demands I point the gun in a safe direction, (good luck on a busy day in a small shop) remove the magazine and open the action. -And 9-times out of ten I'm looked at like a nut for doing it. Same goes for a closed wheelgun or bolt gun or semi-auto longarm (Though the latter tend not to have a magazine in them.) Why the Heck should I have to take some jerk clerk's word for it that the gun is unloaded? I can tell you stories about cases where the gun WAS loaded when presented to a customer. Why is it custom to violate every common sense rule of gun safety because you work at a gun shop and act like the customer is a loon when they demand you put the gun in a safe condition before you hand it to them? Gun shops: I'm a VERY small-time trainer, but I send out about 300 people a year who are told quite explicitly that if they get any guff over a reasonable request to make the gun safe before it's handed over, to WALK OUT and find another shop. That's my opinion. Do you guys think I'm crazy or do you just go along to get along? Or are you so confident in Joe clerk who works at your local Emporium O Death (That's a joke Son, relax) that you're willing to bet yours and someone else's life on the fact that they didn't make a mistake?