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Question about SBR's

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by audi goodness, Jul 16, 2012.

  1. audi goodness

    audi goodness Seattle Member

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    So I wanted to try out an SBR build on my .22 and was curious about some stuff.
    Questions:
    1. Are they legal in the WA?
    2. If they are legal, how do I go about creating 1 the legal rought (i.e. Stamps, paperworks, etc.)
    3. What shops would you recommend that can cut it down to size and also do thread to accomodate a suppressor?

    I'm a newbie to SBR's so any info would help.

    Thanks!
     
  2. RedneckRampage

    RedneckRampage Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty sure WA does not allow SBRs or SBSs. That was the reason I forgot about building one, cause I shoot in WA a lot.
     
  3. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    If you want a short barreled rifle and suppressor in WA you can do it - sort of; pin/weld a suppressor to a barrel to make it a permanent 16"+ installation or purchase an integrated/suppressed .22 upper that has the same length.

    Then you are dealing with only one stamp - for the suppressor itself. Anything with stock and a barrel under 16" where the suppressor can be taken on and off will be an SBR and not legal in WA.

    Something like this; .22/9mm - http://www.srtarms.com/custom.htm
     
  4. audi goodness

    audi goodness Seattle Member

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    Good to know. Any suggestions as where to get my barrel cut down, threaded and pinned?
     
  5. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    Tornado Tech would probably do it.

    Another alternative is the SBX barrel by Tactical Solutions - then the suppressor can be removed and used on other guns.
     
  6. audi goodness

    audi goodness Seattle Member

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    Yea I saw the Tactical solutions and Tactical innovations barrel but they're too long for my liking. I want it to be 16" with suppressor, so I'm looking at an 11" or 12" barrel. I'll check out that tornado tech.
     
  7. Burt Gummer

    Burt Gummer Portland Completely Out of Ammo

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    With the SBX the barrel is about 16" with suppressor, close to it. I really like the look of the Ruger SR22 with the SBX; don't have one myself.
     
  8. BillM

    BillM Amity OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Another vote for the Tac-Sol SBX. My Liberty Kodiak TL can only
    sticks out about 3/4", making the barrel OAL with can right at 17".
    The Tac-Sol Cascade is a bit shorter, getting down close
    to 16" barrel and can.
     
  9. nrc

    nrc Oregon Member

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    Lots of good options out there. I would add that Thompson machine also makes an internally suppressed 16" drop in barrel for a 10/22. The 'Operative' retails for $575 (you can find them cheaper) which isn't too bad considering the cost of cutting, pinning, etc.

    RIMFIRE SUPPRESSORS « Thompson Machine

    Whichever way you go - make sure that whatever type of pinned suppressor you put on a 22lr can be disassembled for cleaning.
     
  10. codezilla

    codezilla United States Member

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    They are a short barrel (12.25") with a 4" shroud permanently pinned/welded to the barrel for an overall length of 16.25" - most 22LR suppressors are 4-5" and fit perfectly. I don't have a suppressor to show, but here's my Tactical Solutions SB-X compared to my Bushmaster 16" with a flash hider. The SB-X is currently listed for sale or trade in the rifle parts classified forum located here.

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  11. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    I SO want that. Do you know of any dealerss in the PDX or north valley area that stock this?
     
  12. codezilla

    codezilla United States Member

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    delete
     
  13. nrc

    nrc Oregon Member

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    Not likely to find one of the shelf, but if you call Brooks at Thompson Machine I bet he'll ship one to a local SOT. Curt's Discounts, etc.

    (I have no affiliation with either Curt or TM, but have done business with both, and they are good vendors.)
     
  14. audi goodness

    audi goodness Seattle Member

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    So if I were to permanently pin the suppressor to the barrel, how does 1 go about cleaning the barrel and suppressor? Would you have to take it to a gun smith and have it clean by them?
     
  15. jdub75

    jdub75 PNW Well-Known Member

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    Some of the 22 suppressors disassemble from the end. Just research the ones that do, and you wouldn't need to ever 'unweld' the suppressor.
     
  16. PDXSparky

    PDXSparky Keizer / Hillsboro Well-Known Member

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    It isn't the suppressor that is permanently pinned to the barrel, it is the shroud that is pinned. The can fits inside the shroud. You can still remove the suppressor for cleaning.