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Put away your gun, get out your wallet. BOHICA

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Feb 20, 2012.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yes to some degree but lets take an example.

    lets say your weekend deer hunting trip involved 500 miles to and from and wandering around while you are then at 15mpg (most newer pickups do this easy some better some worse)

    Fuel at 3.00 a gallon 500 miles divided by 15 = 33.5 gallons or roughly $100.00

    Fuel at 4.00 a gallon 500 miles divided by 15 = 33.5 gallons or roughly $134.00

    And that is an extreme example. If 34.00 bucks is the make or break for a hunting trip then maybe cut out the case of beer and McDonalds along the way.

    Sure over the course of a Hunting season that will add up. But there are simple ways to reduce costs. Take a Buddy or two along. Don't buy the Booze don't travel quite as far. Hunt with last years rifle.
     
  3. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    And then, of course, there are many people like me. When I go hunting, it generally only costs the price of the ammo expended.
     
  4. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Won't be long before hunting and recreational shooting are considered expensive luxuries. I'm waiting for Nancy Pelosi to hold hearings on price gouging and lay blame on the President for the high price of fuel. :laugh:

    Like this in 2007:
    [video=youtube;tbzzeuYJteY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbzzeuYJteY[/video]

    Come on Nancy, Obama and his big oil cronies are making obscene profits, right? :laugh: :laugh:
     
  5. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Rufus:

    Nicely done.
     
  6. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Dave, same to you!
     
  7. Blitzkrieg

    Blitzkrieg WA Well-Known Member

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    AK alone has a 500+ year supply of hidden, capped crude for all of North America. In addition oil is abiotic and made by geothermal process and the wells eventually refill

    We are being scammed. Wake up people and retake your nation from the bastages who are conning you

    [video=youtube;NbakN7SLdbk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbakN7SLdbk&feature=related[/video]
     
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  8. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    HEY RUFUS I call BULL on the gas prices in LA Your article mentions a single station with that price and I would also assume its for Premium.

    For a reality check try this web site for up to date accurate prices.

    Los Angeles Gas Prices - Find Cheap Gas Prices in California

    Yes they are higher then is the norm but lets get real in the average fill up on a Car 10-12 gallons the cost difference between $3.00 a gallon and 4.00 a gallon in only 10-12 bucks. Now if you are going through 2-3+ tanks of gas a week that could bite big time. If you are like most people who commute less then 30 miles a day and drive a car that gets 25mpg your only filling up once every ten days. Or an additional cost to commute of $1.20 a day. Cut out the Starbucks or what ever.

    Yes it bites if you drive a 10mpg 4x4 pickup. And commute 50 miles a day. But then you made that choice.

    My wife commutes 85 miles a day 5 days a week her car gets about 34mpg is a 97 Saturn and has 250K on the clock she uses 12.5 gallons a week commuting.

    I drive a 98 Dakota get 19mpg commute 32 miles a day and use 8.5 gallons a week commuting. I only commute about 7 months out of the year.
     
  9. rufus

    rufus State of Jefferson Well-Known Member

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    So how do you like your Prius?
     
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  10. DMax

    DMax Yamhill Well-Known Member

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    I hope the media and oil speculators are wrong on the $5.00 Gas I hope it goes higher I can't think of anything better to point to another BHO failed polices that effects all Americans regardless of party to wake them up and get thier voting mind right. Besides what you put into your tank is a very small cost compared to the impact on consumer product costs. This way we can get the energy inflation cost felt in the price of goods since they like hide it in the inflation index.
     
  11. hermannr

    hermannr Okanogan Highlands Well-Known Member

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    $5.00 a gallon gas will sure make Obama's killing the Keystone pipeline project look bad come election day don't you think.
     
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  12. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    So lets hear how that works :eatpop:
     
  13. deen_ad

    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    We're just about to head for Phoenix in our motorhome towing a Honda Odyssey. We get about 8 mpg if I hold to 60 or so. Unfortunately we're going through CA and visit friends there on the way. I can usually get to the AZ border on one tank (150 gallons). It takes me about two weeks pay to fill the tank, now it'll take more $$. Now I know I'll stay at Wal*Marts to save money!
     
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    deen_ad Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Nah, Holder is in charge of his campaign and will withhold the files!
     
  15. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Just out of curiosity, Mark, who'd you vote for in 2008? Who are you supporting today?
     
  16. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    The average price of gas upon Obama's inauguration was $1.84 per gallon. The cost to fill a typical tank of gas has risen about $30 since then.

    He has done everything he can to shut down and hinder our own oil production, including his latest refusal to allow the pipeline from Canada. His administration shut down drilling in Utah which had already gone through the complete approval process.

    He shut down drilling in the Gulf and those rigs moved to Brazil and Asia and they aren't coming back. We actually loaned Brazil $billions to get their offshore drilling going after we shut ours down.

    Even if oil was dirt cheap, we still shouldn't be sending hundreds of $billions to the ME to countries which hate us. We should be keeping that money at home where our own oil and gas production would create about $1 trillion in jobs each year.

    We need more refineries. We are importing refined gasoline. That's ridiculous.

    We have more oil reserves than all of the rest of the world combined. Period. This is crazy.
     
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    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Please correct me if I'm wrong here, but wasn't that pipe line from Canada just to get THEIR oil/gas to the Gulf so Canada could make billions shipping it off to the highest bidders?? The US getting no benefits what so ever from the pipe line? Only some temporary jobs while the pipe line was being built, and a few jobs after completion?

    Mike
     
  19. PhysicsGuy

    PhysicsGuy Corvallis, OR Resident Science Nut

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    I see that this thread is full of general confusion and claims made with a lack of background.

    "We" do not produce millions of barrels of crude from Alaska, this land is leased by private companies (some foreign) that extract oil, transport, and sell to the where the market price is the highest. This is run by simple economics, not by our .gov. I get a laugh every time someone complains that America is selling its oil to China when we could be keeping it here to lower our fuel prices. Do you really think a free enterprise is going to saturate a market here to lower prices when they can make more selling elsewhere?

    Also as far as gas being more expensive in LA, this is because major metro areas/regions are required to have special blends made to reduce emissions for their specific climate, this is why gas is cheaper in Montana than LA. Period.
     
  20. Gunner3456

    Gunner3456 Salem Well-Known Member

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    I won't argue that oil is developed for a profit motive but then I never had a problem with capitalism. If we produced a lot more oil here, and we do have more oil than all of the rest of the countries in the world combined, we could drive the price down. Our oil companies are buying oil from the ME at prices dictated by OPEC and they are going to mark it up and make a profit. We could flood the market with oil and therefore supply. We don't have to put up with OPEC.

    We also shouldn't be buying refined gasoline. Those refinery jobs should be here.

    Not only that, but I'd have no problem with our government selling oil leases with a requirement that the oil stay here. It's our oil.

    As for the price of oil in Montana vs Kalif, don't forget that the combined taxes on a gallon of gas in Kalif is 67.5 cents, but in Montana it's "just" 46.2 cents. That's 21 cents right there, not counting the state's requirements for "special" gas. So it isn't "period."
     
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