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Purchasing an AR in Oregon with a CA Drivers License

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by ahicks3, Apr 20, 2014.

  1. ahicks3

    ahicks3 New Member

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    Hey guys,
    Im sure this has been asked before, but right now I am living in Oregon, have a permanent address, bills, and am paying income tax here, but I still have my CA drivers license. Would I be able to purchase a non-CA Compliant rifle here or would I have to get my ODL first? Thanks!
     
  2. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    You need an Oregon drivers license if you live in Oregon PERIOD.

    You must notify DMV of an address change within 30 days. This includes moving into the state.
     
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  3. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    On the gun note, I doubt any firearms retailer would sell a gun to a person with a CA DL simply because of the overly restrictive laws that they have no need to track compliance with.

    Other than the FFL being unwilling for fear of breaking a CA (maybe federal) law, then there is nothing baring them from selling long guns to out of state DL's in Oregon.
     
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  4. civilian75

    civilian75 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    ^^^^^ What the two guys before me said.
     
  5. Doc In UPlace

    Doc In UPlace Tacoma-ish Well-Known Member

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    Why?
     
  6. duane black

    duane black Washington Well-Known Member

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    Exactly. The first thing I wanted to do was incinerate mine while giggling like a 6 year old on Christmas morning.
     
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  7. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    I still have my Texas License and plates, still own a residence there, pay property taxes, and visit *shrug*
     
  8. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I'm pretty sure the requirement is just "government issued ID," but each shop will have their own policy. I would just ask whatever shop you're interested in buying from.
     
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  9. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    While FFL's are prohibited from selling handguns to out of state customers, they can sell any long-gun to out of state customers. (I'm too lazy to dig the CFR ### up)

    While a CA DL will technically allow you to buy any long gun on the shelf today, many FFL's will refuse simply on the fact that it is a California license, and you are a 'resident' of said state. California's restrictive, convoluted laws make it difficult for out-of-state- FFL's to act within the law, and they simply avoid dealing with California 'residents' all together.
     
  10. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    ;)Perhaps they'd accept an Obamacare card?????

    Brutus Out
     
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  11. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    Holy cow how much FUD in this thread.

    First of all, any eligible person from any state can purchase any firearm in any other state. Question is whether they can take possession of that firearm, or if such firearm has to be shipped to an FFL in their state of residence where they will take possession of it. That is a bit off track though.

    Now to OP's the question. As long as you claim your residence in Oregon, and have proof of your residence address in Oregon, you should be able to purchase any firearm of your liking. That is based on the reading of the federal and state laws. Here are some citations :

    https://www.atf.gov/content/firearms-frequently-asked-questions-unlicensed-persons#state-residency

    http://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-15.pdf

    https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/lawsstatutes/2013ors166.html

    Now it doesn't mean the FFL will out right comply with the law, as they may not be aware of these caveats. Either have them call ATF and/or OSP, or simply get Oregon ID (where ID is not the same as DL) with your Oregon address on it.
     
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  12. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    Not true! You have obtain an Oregon driver's license as soon as RESIDENCY is established. There is no "grace" period. However, if stopped, most cops are under the same "30 days" impression and are relatively lenient.

    However, there is the "30 day" window for an simple address change. That is simply moving from an address in Oregon to another address in Oregon.

    Bottom line: Just get an Oregon driver's license and don't worry about it.
     
  13. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    That is likely not the case. Oregon vehicle code establishes penalties for operating a vehicle by a person who has been a a resident of this state for more than 30 days, but does not possess a valid OR DL. There is also a penalty for operating a vehicle that has not been properly titled/registered in Oregon after 30 days of residency. My reading is that as long as a person does not do any of the two, they are under no obligation to obtain OR DL.
     
  14. misplacedtexan

    misplacedtexan Beaverton, OR Active Member

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    delete
     
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  15. BAMCIS

    BAMCIS Eugene Well-Known Member

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    I was going by memory, however this piqued my curiosity. Since I know google is my friend, I found ORS 806.305 and ORS 807.020. I now stand corrected. Thanks.

    However, I still stand by in what I said about just getting an Oregon driver's license and not worry about it.
     
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  16. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Screw the AR.. get a concealed handgun license and carry like a normal person.
     
  17. 1337BaldEagle

    1337BaldEagle Earth Active Member

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    "Must" is kind of a strong term. Yes, technically your supposed to however they have no way of tracking how long you have been in a particular place. If you are non compliant they tack on a fee. Again a fee that can easily be lied out of. The term "must" is rather deceptive. Just FYI.

    Eagle
     
  18. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Oh sorry some of us try to be honest and I was quoting the DMV web site.
     
  19. fd15k

    fd15k Tigard,OR Well-Known Member

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    As was stated earlier, those requirements seem to apply only if one wishes to operate a motor vehicle. I believe here is where the 30 day thingy in regards to the DL coming from :

    So if a person is not in compliance, they are guilty of 807.010 - Operating vehicle without
    driving privileges or in violation of license restrictions, which is a Class B traffic violation. Otherwise I don't see a law that requires for one to get their DL replaced within 30 days. Perhaps somebody else will be able to find it.

    And here is the second portion of it, regarding the change of address. It uses a different language, and is more interesting :

     
  20. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I just always carry a loose chad in my pocket.. it just makes me feel better.
    That's code for wtf.. 1st post, cfornda, and a wonky q..
     
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