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PROZANSKI SHUTS DOWN GUN BILLS

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Chee-to, Feb 8, 2012.

  1. Chee-to

    Chee-to Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Oregon Firearms Federation

    PRIVACY BILL PASSES HOUSE COMMITTEE, PROZANSKI KILLS IT IN SENATE
    House Bill 4045, a bill to protect the privacy of CHL holders, passed out of the House Judiciary Committee today. It was amended from its original form, but still a very good bill. Three of the five House Democrats, Mary Nolan, Carolyn Tomei, and Chris Garrett, voted against the bill. It is their intention to keep this sensitive private information available to reporters, direct mail fundraisers and criminals.

    The rest of the committee voted yes. The bill now goes to the House floor where it will likely pass and then it will be dead.

    In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing today, a clearly agitated Chairman Floyd Prozanski declared the bill dead along with the two gun-related bills his committee was due to hear today.

    Those bills were SB 1550 and SB 1574.

    SB 1550 was Ginny Burdick's bill to keep all school property safe for rapists and killers by forbidding licensed concealed carry on school property.

    SB 1574 was Prozanski's confusing, complex and pointless "reciprocity" bill.

    Before announcing that the bills would not move forward and that the House privacy bill was also dead, Floyd introduced amendments to his "reciprocity" bill that made it even more confusing.

    In spite of the fact that he made it clear that the bills were dead, "Ceasefire Oregon" trotted out their typical false and hysterical testimony about the thousands of felons and murders that get CHLs in other states. The expected testimony was also given about drunken, drug-addled and suicidal college students who would be shooting up college campuses if Burdick's bill was not passed. (Note, as I said, that this testimony was given after the bills were declared dead.) No one explained why college students are not killing themselves and others off campus.

    So with the actions taken today by Prozanski, virtually any chance of moving CHL privacy is over. Thankfully this is also true of his bill and Burdick's.

    That leaves one last piece of business this session. HB 4054 is due for a hearing in the House Health Committee on Monday. This bill "Prohibits Public Employees’ Benefit Board from authorizing or requiring collection of information or maintenance of records about firearms from eligible employee or family member."

    Please contact the members of the House Health Care Committee and urge them to support this important legislation. And please contact your own House Rep if he or she is not on the committee and urge support for this bill with no anti-gun amendments.

    Feel free to use the cut and paste message at the bottom of this alert. Contact information for the House Health Care Committee members follows.




    Mitch Greenlick, Co-Chair 503-986-1433 rep.mitchgreenlick@state.or.us

    Jim Thompson, Co-Chair 503-986-1423 rep.jimthompson@state.or.us

    Val Hoyle, Co-Vice Chair 503-986-1414 rep.valhoyle@state.or.us

    Bill Kennemer, Co-Vice Chair 503-986-1439 rep.billkennemer@state.or.us

    Jason Conger 503-986-1454 rep.jasonconger@state.or.us

    Margaret Doherty 503-986-1435 rep.margaretdoherty@state.or.us

    Alissa Keny-Guyer 503-986-1446 rep.alissakenyguyer@state.or.us

    Julie Parrish 503-986-1437 rep.julieparrish@state.or.us

    Or you can use this link to mail all Committee members.



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    Dear Representative,

    I strongly urge you to support HB 4054 when it is heard in your Health Care Committee. Public employees should not be subjected to pointless invasions of their privacy. The ownership and storage of lawfully owned firearms should be no one's business but the owner of those firearms.

    Yours,
     
  2. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    thanks for posting. I didn't get that alert.
     
  3. FORKLIFT252

    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    I can't believe these dirt bags! !!!!!
    I'll bet they got gobs of email against their bills and for ours. ......they saw the writing on the wall and shut the whole thing down. (In an effort to show their power no doubt )
     
  4. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I think you might want to keep an eye on these people, they may pull there stuff up on the next to last day.
     
  5. FORKLIFT252

    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    Good point!
     
  6. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    Alright, I met with Sens. Prozanski and Burdick on Tuesday, and had typed a writeup in the initial thread, but the web browser ate it and I didn't feel like re-typing it, so I'll just post the letter I just sent to Mr. Prozanski instead:

    My talk with Ms. Burdick was productive. I think we managed to show her that legal gun owners are *NOT* the problem (and were happy to see Mr. Prozanski use the Texas CPL crime statistics we gave him in his hearing.) She will definitely never be gun-friendly, and will almost certainly always vote against pro-gun bills, but I think we may have convinced her to stop introducing bills that pointlessly regulate only the law-abiding citizens.

    If it weren't for the fact that I would have a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected (too likely to piss people off by speaking my mind; had tax problems (since resolved,) with my former business, which makes me ripe for attack ads; etc,) I'd run against her in the primary...
     
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  7. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    One of my favorite quotes..."People get the government they deserve." Plato

    This is an effort to keep the sheeple dependent on government for their (perceiveded security) thus empowering government and not the individual citizen. For most in this country the spirit of individual freedom is dead.
     
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  8. CharonPDX

    CharonPDX Portland, OR Active Member

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    And here is Mr. Prozanski's reply to me:

    Of course, the audio hadn't yet been available when I wrote him my email. And, yes, I do believe that this was written by him directly, not an aide.
     
  9. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    thanks for posting.
     
  10. FORKLIFT252

    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    It kind of sounds like......Because the other legislator's "caved" to OFF and NRA "demands," where by bringing forward favorable gun law.....they wouldn't hear my "restrictive"
    gun laws......so I'm taking my ball and going home....

    or did i totally read it wrong?
     
  11. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I really wonder how this guy's mind works??? I thought he was chairman...It almost seems like he is slipping a gear sometmes..
     
  12. coyote223

    coyote223 NW Oregon Stamp Collector,,,

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    None of this will even matter, when Nobama is re-elected. :paranoid:
     
  13. soberups

    soberups Newberg Well-Known Member

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    I dont know you, but I would vote for you.

    I think there is hunger for a "real" candidate who speaks plainly and isnt perceived as slick and prepackaged. And the best way to deal with problems from ones past is to be proactive and upfront and honest about them. Everybody has a few warts on their butt.
     
  14. Dunerunner

    Dunerunner You'll Never Know Well-Known Member

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    I'd rather have a candidate that has had some problems and learned from them than some "squeeky clean" candidate that either has something to hide or has mistakes yet to make!
     
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    FORKLIFT252 Oregon Active Member

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    Buddhalux Hillsboro, Oregon Active Member

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    Hopefully they enjoy the same courtesy that they've extended to us voters when people decide to post their personal information on public sites including residence, religion, dependent info and schools they attend.
     
  17. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    write to them, he claims to be pro gun make him prove it.. OFF alert.

    On Wednesday we will have a floor session in the House for HB 4045. This was Kim Thatcher’s CHL privacy bill which passed out of committee in House Judiciary. We expect it will pass on the House Floor.

    As you know, Floyd Prozanski, the chair of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has promised to kill this important bill when it gets to the Senate. There is one last possible solution. If any member of the Senate makes a motion to withdraw the bill from Prozanski’s committee, it is possible that the entire Senate could vote on the bill even if Prozanski refuses to hear it. This happened in 2011 and every Democrat Senator voted “no.”

    On another note, tomorrow is Valentine’s Day. In addition to making sure you pick up a little something for your sweetie, we recommend stopping by Starbucks for beverage. Tomorrow is the first day of the anti-gun extremists boycott against Starbucks because they follow state law and allow open carry in their stores in places where open carry is legal.

    Make sure to tell them why you are there.
     
  18. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure the people who elected him are proud (or competely ignorant gun owners).
    Can we get a pro-gun guy (or girl) to pose as a Democrat and unseat these fools? Seems that's the only way to get elected in Orefornia.
     
  19. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    You know you can have a recall on this guy right?
    Vote his dumb a$$ out of there
     
  20. boxer13

    boxer13 PNW Active Member

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    I'm not too sure she intends to not pursue it.

    She is quoted as saying, “I’m not disappointed with the decision to put it off, I think it’s the correct decision right now,” Burdick said. “But I’m no less committed to the bill.”

    Yeah I fully expect her to try again with this BS