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they learn from their mistakes and come back stronger and often in greater numbers. time honored.
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Protecting your house.........
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they learn from their mistakes and come back stronger and often in greater numbers. time honored.
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And/or with revenge on their minds.
In a real SHTF most wounds would be fatal. It's better if they die some place other than where I live.
They had murder in their mind the first time, doesn't matter what they are thinking the second time. Psychology of a killer doesn't matter once he has decided to murder my family to steal my stuff. He will be stopped if I am able but would rather his friends carry him away than him dieing in my front yard. Unless they are on drugs a good bullet wound will get a person to leave.
I'm old and your right !!I cannot run, So would have to shoot to kill if it came to that. The problem would be how close do you let them get before you shoot and who ? What about people you know but would not be considered best {????} friends? You would not know their status and the longer it is after the SHTF the more desperate their going to be.!!!!!It a SHTF I would shoot to wound , the psychological effect on his buddies from him screaming over a wound would probably be overwhelming. I am not into killing, just protecting my family. By wounding them they will either get carried away or crawl off.
Trick is limiting the access to where you are, don't make it easy to reach. In a world gone mad people are going to have to really think about defense. Old guys ain't going to run and couldn't run far if they had to so all you have left is defense. You run and you will just die tired.
The front door is either open for friends or closed to strangers. It's pretty much by invitation only. Show up uninvited and demanding my families food isn't a friend but someone who is there to loot. You will know right away by how they are armed as to their intentions. I would never harm anyone who isn't a threat and I would give them every chance law enforcement gives them if they are armed...
The thing that could very well occur is a move to disarm everyone when things go south and that is what will kick off the real war, and it will kill a lot of people that will refuse to be the slaves as was done in the 1930's and 40's Germany.
That scenario can NEVER be allowed to happen here without a fight.
If that happens freedom will be gone anyway, and all that will be worth doing is to fight and for a while many many will die. That is being realistic and truthful. If no one fights back there will be no more America or even anything close to it. Life will not be worth much at that point anyway. Living as a sheep is not living.
Whether you believe or not, you best pray that day does not come in your lifetime. I believe it will and probably much sooner than any of us wants.
Freedom as was given to us by the people that freed us from the British Rule of the 1700's is all that means anything. To lose that cannot be allowed to happen.
This is a Unique Nation and there will never be another like it if it falls to Communists and Marxists and Socialists.
The 2nd Amendment truly was placed there for a purpose and they meant Americans to use it when it became necessary.
Even this old fart knows what is at stake. I am as peaceful and honest of a man that you could ever find, and actually tolerant of much more than most people think I am, but I am not tolerant of someone trying to take our Constitution and trample it and try to enslave me in any manner. The oath I took long ago actually means something to me.
I really wonder how many here truly comprehend just how terrible it will be should any of this come to fruition. It will be a very bad day for everyone. By day I mean era, many many days, weeks, months and years.
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I believe we have talked about this subject ad nasuem before. Houses in town are completely undefendable.
Houses out in the country are completely inadequate as any kind of protection. They are bunk houses and chow halls only. Any defenses will have to be in reinforced structures on the property, set up to not allow anybody get close enough to use any kind of weapon against you. That means controlling at least 350 meters out and no less than 100 meters. The right defenses in reinforced structures make this pretty easy.
Houses out in the country are completely inadequate as any kind of protection. They are bunk houses and chow halls only. Any defenses will have to be in reinforced structures on the property, set up to not allow anybody get close enough to use any kind of weapon against you. That means controlling at least 350 meters out and no less than 100 meters. The right defenses in reinforced structures make this pretty easy.
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Got to get close enough to throw it at the house. That should not happen.
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What you can do with the dead body's is leave them is you lawn to scared the looters!
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I am taking a different approach. Move to a higher end neiborhood in a small town where the doctors, police, vets and teachers all live and worry about protecting your neiborhood instead of your house. I am going to need these people in an SHTF scenario. In my small town by far most people have at the least a strong sense of independence and a clear majority of them have some love of firearms and will be some use. I have a house that is 20 miles out of town now and is self sufficient, but have since been rethinking my situation. One man can not defend his house against a well planned out attack.
Odds are the majority of people will stand and defend their homes against looters. Old style vigilance comities will form and take on the looters. Older people have no where to run to and won't last a week away from their homes. They will have no real choice but stay where they are and defend what they have.
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This^^^
I'd mobilize and organize my whole block and expand from there - safety in numbers, gangs learned that a long time ago...
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In the Artic Circle region a wolf and a moose will often cross paths and cautiously steer clear of each other, as even a minor injury in such environment can be a fatal injury. One person, or family cannot defend 1 house. It will take a tribe. Borrowing the idea of heavy equipment, if you can work with neighbors, as your tribe, maybe the small pocket of houses on a street, or cul-de-sac can be fortified using wrecked cars and trucks. Make the area look without much value, even scattering a few dead bodies, break windows, damage the walls, even smoke/fire damage.. If the neighborhood looks pretty much trashed already, what mob of looters are going to risk getting shot for little return ? I doubt there is any solution to the government coming after you, but why would the government be wasting time and resources coming after such a small group when there are bigger threats to deal with ? Seems to me the concern will be looters. If one can put together a tribe of neighbors with a common purpose then maybe this will work out. I think a tribe needs guards 24/7, scavengers, cooks, maintenance team, medic, ... fill in the tasks needed to survive and function as a tribe. Without a tribe and a fixed, secure base you will be on your own, and won't last long.
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You would have to guard the house 24/7/365
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That would be the idea. In a hard core SHTF, Hooks post above outlines the scenario. You will have to have multiple individuals and protection teams in service 24 / 7. It is more abut securing an area of control than an individual structure. We have a solid family unit with some outside additions. Ex Military, LE, paramedic, farmer, mechanics..got it covered.
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