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Private Gun Show Purchases?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by taylor, Feb 6, 2010.

  1. taylor

    taylor Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    Do purchases from non-dealers at gun shows still go through OSP, or are they considered a private purchase?
    Taylor
     
  2. My understanding is that any purchase of a gun at a gunshow has to go through osp. What I was wondering is if you could just run over to the park and ride and do a legal private exchange?
     
  3. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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    If you purchase a firarm at a gun show whether it is a licensed dealer or not the purchase has to go through a instacheck. this also includes any purchases initiated at a show. for example some guy walking around with a gun wants to sell it and you want to buy it, even at his home it is still considered having been initiated at the show. Stupid law but there are people that try to set up unknowing buyers and bust them, so beware.
     
  4. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    anybody got a link to this law?
     
  5. sultanofswat

    sultanofswat canby, OR Member

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    my understanding of it was that if you meet a guy there, and wanted to buy his gun. that all you have to do is go off premises and make the deal and you are fine.
     
  6. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Oregon statutes
     
  7. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    Statute is ORS 166.438, and it refers specifically to transfers at gun shows. Not sales at gun shows, not transactions started at gun shows, nothing but transfers at gun shows.

    Didn't come across any cases indicating that courts have interpreted the statute differently. Also didn't look very hard.
     
  8. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    There was one case I remember where a dealers brother sold some guns after a show to someone that made contact at the show but I can't remember enough to get a good Google hit.
     
  9. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    I believe it... but he could have been prosecuted under a different statute.


    Regardless, I think that trying to skirt this one might be asking for trouble - not a good bet for a buyer trying to preserve his privacy (I'm assuming this ain't about saving $10).
     
  10. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately people will do some very stupid things just to save $10-$20. :paranoid: I see it all the the time here in the classified Ad section with interstate FTF suggestions. If people think that the ATF wouldn't monitor a firearms forum they're fooling themselves, If I were an ATF agent I would!
     
  11. taylor

    taylor Willamette Valley Well-Known Member

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    First of all I think alot of free minded individuals would rather avoid the State Police check not to save $10, but to avoid handing Big Sis a roadmap to their potential survival tools.
    Anything to legally put an obstacle in the way of a gun grabbing bunch of theives.
    When England confiscated firearms, they took the transfer records and drove military around till they had them all. I could go down the list; Germany, Italy, Holland etc.
    Last week Leon Panneta (CIA chief), said we can expect an attack from Al Queda in 4 or 5 weeks and thats that. Just Brace yourself!
    The first thing that would happen in a case of martial law would be the confiscation of arms.
    Anyways who wants to be fingerprinted like some kind of criminal?
    Taylor
     
  12. A2theK

    A2theK Olympia Member

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    Exactly....I guess anyone who wants to exercise the right to CC a pistol for protection has to..
     
  13. C96

    C96 Mid Willamette Valley New Member

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    At my age they already have my name on a whole bunch of firearms, a couple off of the books would be meaningless. In a couple of my purchases of used firearms I was a bit concerned about the seller and the NCICs check made feel better about the firearms.

    Also I don't want a firearm that I purchased "on the books" being sold to the wrong person and have my name the last on the list.
     
  14. Iceberg

    Iceberg Forest Grove Active Member

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    Just move to Washington as long as you don't need Class III weapons....lol. FTF is not a problem, yet. What really sucks is that I have to transfer OR pistols thru a FFL.
     
  15. Trlsmn

    Trlsmn In Utero (Portland) Well-Known Member

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    Here is a cut and paste from an unnamed attorney who I believe has given you advice in private in the past?

     
  16. ZachS

    ZachS Eugene/PDX Active Member

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    There ya go :)
     
  17. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    :thumbup:
     
  18. trainsktg

    trainsktg Portland OR Well-Known Member

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    I thought this was just a Portland thing...I didn't realize that it was an ORS.

    If I'm reading this right, till looks like FTF is OK by two in-state residents, if initiated by something like this website or the Nickel Ads.

    Keith