Price of a Wolf??

[longcolt]

Around hunting camp this year hunters chatted about the fine for shooting a Wolf. They are a listed endangered species in OR and it was said the fine was 100K plus loss of rifle, vehicle and maybe time in the slammer.

Sounds pretty stiff to me, anyone know the facts??

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[Redcap]

They are free if you don't get caught.

 

[nwwoodsman]

Cheaper than a fine

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This is from the ODF&W http://www.dfw.state.or.us/Wolves/faq.asp

Except in defense of human life, it is unlawful to shoot a wolf. Doing so is a violation of Oregon state game law, with fines and penalties assessed by a court. The violation would be a Class A misdemeanor, with a maximum penalty of a $6,250 fine and confinement to the county jail for one year. West of Hwys 395-78-95, wolves are also protected by the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA). Killing an animal protected under the federal ESA is punishable by a fine of up to $100,000, one year in jail, or both.

 

[kd7vdb]

Did you read that page!

First :In cases where livestock losses occur and non-lethal efforts to resolve the problem are deemed ineffective, ODFW can also provide "caught in the act" permits. These allow ranchers to shoot a wolf they catch "in the act of biting, wounding, or killing livestock" on their property or lands they lawfully occupy. Because wolves usually target livestock at night and tend to avoid people, the opportunity to use these permits is rare.
Second: "Remember, it is NOT legal to shoot at or attempt to injure or kill a wolf even if it is attacking your dog".


So if a wolf is killing your dog or cattle, hang out and watch because its illegal to harm them

 

[Grunwald]

Can we capture a few packs then transport and release in Washington DC?

 

[drew]

Can we capture a few packs then transport and release in Washington DC?

Sounds like a great trial program. I know several state capitols they should be released if it works in DC.

 

[RVTECH]

anyone know the facts??

Yes - an incredible waste of money and manpower for virtually no return to the economy, or anything for that matter other than maybe unreasonable legal costs for anyone who may be convicted of killing one and the resultant public service costs. Stupidity at the highest level when we have REAL problems to deal with.

 

[longcolt]

Can we capture a few packs then transport and release in Washington DC?

Or just send them into Starbucks in Portland. Selected cafe's of course, they ain't all bad.

 

[singleshooter]

Did you read that page!

First :In cases where livestock losses occur and non-lethal efforts to resolve the problem are deemed ineffective, ODFW can also provide “caught in the act” permits. These allow ranchers to shoot a wolf they catch “in the act of biting, wounding, or killing livestock” on their property or lands they lawfully occupy. Because wolves usually target livestock at night and tend to avoid people, the opportunity to use these permits is rare.
Second: "Remember, it is NOT legal to shoot at or attempt to injure or kill a wolf even if it is attacking your dog".


So if a wolf is killing your dog or cattle, hang out and watch because its illegal to harm them

But officer I wasn't shooting at the wolf...I was shooting the cow...lol

 

[mjbskwim]

But officer I wasn't shooting at the wolf...I was shooting the cow...lol

Why not? You were puting it out of it's misery and that darn wolf moved the wrong direction.
S S S is too messy. Too much chance of leaving evidence.
Through and through belly shot. Wolf runs away,way away from the bullet that went through him.Can't be good for him
And you don't get caught digging a hole in the middle of nowhere. For?
Plus I would get caught skinning it. Heck why let that cool rug go to waste?
The toof necklace wouldn't be good either

 

[hermannr]

Did you read that page!

First :In cases where livestock losses occur and non-lethal efforts to resolve the problem are deemed ineffective, ODFW can also provide "caught in the act" permits. These allow ranchers to shoot a wolf they catch "in the act of biting, wounding, or killing livestock" on their property or lands they lawfully occupy. Because wolves usually target livestock at night and tend to avoid people, the opportunity to use these permits is rare.
Second: "Remember, it is NOT legal to shoot at or attempt to injure or kill a wolf even if it is attacking your dog".


So if a wolf is killing your dog or cattle, hang out and watch because its illegal to harm them

Sorry, I have the RIGHT to protect what is mine, dog, cow, wife, kids, or myself. RCW 9A.16.110

 

[Sgt Nambu]

Yes - an incredible waste of money and manpower for virtually no return to the economy, or anything for that matter other than maybe unreasonable legal costs for anyone who may be convicted of killing one and the resultant public service costs. Stupidity at the highest level when we have REAL problems to deal with.

Yes, but real problems are hard and protecting those cuddly little wolves just feels right! You know all warm and fuzzy!

 

[Swedish K]

Many ranchers who have lost livestock to wolves and try to get reimbursement from the feds are told something along the lines of "this looks like a coyote attack to me" (the feds don't like to keep their word when it comes time to reimburse from this program). I recall one individual who was told that his calf wasn't a wolf victim and it was obviously coyotes - when he said Oh - OK then I guess it's OK for me to shoot it/them next time they are attacking my livestock... Apparently the feds didn't like that response much and went on to say that he better not shoot a wolf, etc...

 

[lucky guy]

Or just send them into Starbucks in Portland. Selected cafe's of course, they ain't all bad.

I'm thinking Forest Park, what could be better!?

 

[carracer]

I have a TAG!

 

[drew]

I'm thinking Forest Park, what could be better!?

City hall.

 

[stevenm2]

When I bought my (overpriced) Hunting license and played tag lotto
(at 8 bucks a pop) They asked if I wanted to donate to the "Predator Control Fund" She asked "How much would you like to donate?"
I replied "180 grains"
These guys have a lot of cahones asking us to pony up for what they messed up in the first place. ODFW should have taken the stand that there will no wolves in Oregon after the lessons learned in Idaho and Montana. Instead we have a major predator species here now out of control and eating what we have all paid for decades to develop.
With proper managment Oregon Could have been a destination state for Elk Hunting Like Idaho used to be. Instead we have become dog catchers.:huh:

 

[Redcap]

When I bought my (overpriced) Hunting license and played tag lotto
(at 8 bucks a pop) They asked if I wanted to donate to the "Predator Control Fund" She asked "How much would you like to donate?"
I replied "180 grains"
These guys have a lot of cahones asking us to pony up for what they messed up in the first place. ODFW should have taken the stand that there will no wolves in Oregon after the lessons learned in Idaho and Montana. Instead we have a major predator species here now out of control and eating what we have all paid for decades to develop.
With proper managment Oregon Could have been a destination state for Elk Hunting Like Idaho used to be. Instead we have become dog catchers.:huh:

One (of many) reasons I refuse to play the licensing game.

 

[mjbskwim]

One (of many) reasons I refuse to play the licensing game.

Is another that you can have your deer in the freezer before anyone knows it's missing?

 

[carracer]

One (of many) reasons I refuse to play the licensing game.

I certainly hope you are referring to not going hunting as opposed to being a scum bag poacher.