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Prblem: Lax courts, not lax gun laws

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. powersbj

    powersbj Seattle Area Active Member

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    I think we need to start being careful about demanding enforcement of the current laws. With the new background check laws and registration we could be putting our own necks in the noose. We need to attempt to control the conversation with misleading initiave titles, ie "effective gun control and background check reform" rolling back 594, and putting a "more efficent, cost effective and results-oriented legislation to reduce gun violence" throw in a gun registration initiave call it the "Assault weapons registaration act" require all assault weapons in wa be registered in the state, define assault weapons as full autos and effectively ban any other type of gun registration in wa state, etc.. let's use the lefts own playbook against it.
     
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  3. PrDubi

    PrDubi Deep in the heart of Dirty South Salem Active Member

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    Google project exile....

    That worked great..until the social injustice warriors whined like an air raid siren.
     
  4. Hawaiian

    Hawaiian Tigard Oregon Well-Known Member

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    MSN ran an article a month ago. A gang banger in Detroit in his early twenty's. He had been arrested seven times for carrying an illegal gun. Each time he received a slap on the wrist and was put back on the streets. And, yes he is again carrying an illegal gun as he has no fear of anything happening to him if he is caught again.

    This is what is wrong with our society today. Little Johnny gets caught shoplifting, no no Johnny, bad boy, slap on the wrist. Well that didn't hurt so he keep shoplifting. Then he moves up in the wonderful world of crime and burglarizes the neighbors house. Same thing, no no Johnny, bad boy, slap on the wrist. So little Johnny moves on up to stealing cars, armed robbery and other crimes.

    We are not doing little Johnny any favors by teaching him that there are no consequences for his actions, we are actully enabling and encouraging him to commit crimes.

    I an not suggesting that we lock him up and throw away the key, as that would only make matters worse. Some tough love is needed at a early age to teach our young children that there are consequences for commiting a crime. Maybe a weekend in lockup in isolation. Then up the penalty next time. Maybe a boot camp for repeat offenders. We would be actually doing these kids a favor and saving them in the long run.

    Society is creating the crime problem with the current system and lack of any consequences for their actions.
     
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  5. PrDubi

    PrDubi Deep in the heart of Dirty South Salem Active Member

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    Sharia laws will fix this..
     
  6. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    I agree that recidivism is responsible for a large portion of our 10,000 gun murders, however our society pays much more attention to 200 mass shooting victims than to the remaining 9,800 single shooting victims. In part because of media attention to the "bloodier the better", but in part also because we consider underprivileged drug dealers that die in turf wars "expendable". My suspicion is that many judges hand out these lenient sentences because deep inside they put some blame on society for not offering better options for young minority males (mostly) to get proper education and make a life for themselves.

    If we want to make progress, we need to address education and poverty. No way around it.
     
  7. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Here is a case of a miscreant who has three arrests since 2012. In the first arrest he has a felony charge in the arrest. In his arrest three days ago he only has a misdemeanor weapon charge. I want to know WHY this latest arrest doesn't come with a "Felon in Possession" charge? Yeah, I already know why, the 2012 charge was, most likely, plead down to some misdemeanor, or dropped all together!

    This guy has been packing a firearm, and one of these days is likely to shoot something up and WE will be the ones to hear about it with more laws making it harder/more expensive for the law abiding.
     
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