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Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by thereddog, Dec 18, 2012.

  1. thereddog

    thereddog State of Jefferson Active Member

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    If you decide to share this (I hope you will) you may need to slightly change the wording to keep it from being pulled. I have put it up several times on FB, and it keeps being taken down.............................................. .



    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.



    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.
    With guns, we are 'citizens'. Without them, we are 'subjects'.
     
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  2. Cheesemaker

    Cheesemaker Tillamook Active Member

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    For some good reading try googling, "violence statistics in countries with gun ban" and you will be amazed.

    Did you know that Australia, since 2006, has had a 46.2% increase in violent crime rates since they banned weapons?

    Britain had a 48% increase in violent crimes.
     
  3. badclam

    badclam willapa bay Sunny SW WA Active Member

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    We're not the ones that need to see this. We need to get this out publicly. Thanks for the references.
     
  4. Mikej

    Mikej Portland Gold Supporter Gold Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    How many times are you going to post this crap that has nothing what-so-ever to do with anything happening today? The "big bad guberment" is not coming to take away our fire arms, period!

    They are just going to make it so expensive that the average American won't be able to afford a fire arm, or if they have one they won't be able to afford to SHOOT it!

    Mike
     
  5. thereddog

    thereddog State of Jefferson Active Member

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    Mike, tell that to 56 million people that were stripped of their ability to fight back by the big bad government and then murdered.


    Oh, to answer your question, Until people wake up and listen to reality and history and see the 56 million dead for what they represent. Tyranny.
     
  6. thereddog

    thereddog State of Jefferson Active Member

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    The Constitution is like a dam.
    If a crack forms, it loses its integrity, and it is only a matter of time

    until the whole thing doesn't hold any water at all and comes crashing down.
     
  7. novamind

    novamind Hillsboro Active Member

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    They just may make a money barrier hurdle to jump over to own a gun that is a very good possibility, thus enabling the rich this RIGHT while restricting the undesirable poor of this RIGHT.
     
  8. nwdrifter

    nwdrifter troutdale oregon Active Member

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    rdt SW Portland Active Member

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    Mike - Yes, the very survival of each and every "big bad government" depends on victim disarmament. Under a "good" government we may come to be complacent and forget the root purpose of firearms: to fight war. Thats why we have them, why we keep them, why the 2A was created, and why criminals try to disarm their would be victims. Yeah guns are fun to shoot at targets and make hunting easier, but thats secondary.

    Why would you think a market-based gun control scheme is any less of a prerequisite to dictatorship and genocide than a state-based scheme? Furthermore wouldnt a market-based scheme be precisely the most effective form of gun control in modern America? If only the rich have guns who is to say the rich dont become "big and bad"? I mean, wages really put a damper on profits, you know?

    Gun control is not about neighbors disapproving of your hobby, its about whether a government could profitably become "big and bad."
     
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  10. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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    Let not forget why japan decided not to invade the US during WW2. Heroshima decided not to invade because he had gone to college in the late 1930s here in the US and knew that almost every household had a gun in it. He knew that if he did invade the US that it would be a bloodbath for the japanese and decided against it.
     
  11. novamind

    novamind Hillsboro Active Member

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    22many Your statement for the most part is correct but I believe Heroshima is an incorrect name.
     
  12. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    So Hiroshima is the proper spelling, and it's a location. This is what happened there:
    300px-Atomic_bombing_of_Japan.jpg

    Hiroshima is on the left.
     
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    geometro PDX Active Member

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  14. novamind

    novamind Hillsboro Active Member

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    My Father did clean up at Hiroshima and Nagasaki in WWII in the Army
     
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    novamind Hillsboro Active Member

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    We have awoke a sleeping gaint
    There would be a gun behind every blade of grass
     
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  16. WhyteCheddar

    WhyteCheddar East of Moscow by the Willamette Well-Known Member

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    Amen
     
  17. 22many

    22many PNW Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for the correction. My Memory isn't what it used to be.
     
  18. davemata

    davemata Spokane, WA Well-Known Member

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    Just how it should be.