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I read somewhere of a purposed bill in Wa that would change the age of concealed carry of a pistol to 18. How can this be? You have to be 21 to buy a pistol. Is there a law that woulds allow a 18 yo to have a gun even thought he is too young to own it?

I will look for the bill number and post back.
 
It was HB 3082 in 2009:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?year=2009&bill=3082

Discussion here:
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Present law:
RCW 9.41.240
Possession of pistol by person from eighteen to twenty-one.


Unless an exception under RCW 9.41.042, 9.41.050, or 9.41.060 applies, a person at least eighteen years of age, but less than twenty-one years of age, may possess a pistol only:

(1) In the person's place of abode;

(2) At the person's fixed place of business; or

(3) On real property under his or her control.
 
Geez, the US military issues them to 18year-olds all the time. They have for years.

Of course it's Washington, where you can own a suppressor but not use it! :confused: :huh: :rolleyes:
 
I read somewhere of a purposed bill in Wa that would change the age of concealed carry of a pistol to 18. How can this be? You have to be 21 to buy a pistol. Is there a law that woulds allow a 18 yo to have a gun even thought he is too young to own it?

I will look for the bill number and post back.

Old enough to vote & old enough to fight & die for their country but not old enough to drink or own a pistol? Hmmm, maybe you need to rethink your position.
 
I whole hardheartedly disagree. Think back to the girls you knew and or dated in High School and tell me again you want to put a loaded gun in their hands!

True, I was only thinking of impulsive, hotheaded misuse of the CCW privilege - not the premeditated, coldhearted kind. :s0112:
 
Maturaty and good judgement have nothing to do with a persons age.
I would trust many 18 yr olds with a gun before the jack@$$, 48yr old ccw holder, who shot at petty thieves driving away in Gresham.
 
I know many young folks at age fifteen that are fully responsible and capable of properly handling a firearm, long or hand gun.... even carrying it responsibly. As someone said, we take seventeen year olds into the military, train them in the use of all manner of combat weapons, and send them to sandpits and jungles to use them to kill designated combatants... or die trying. Yet, when these same 17 year olds come home, they can't even touch a handgun unless Dad is right there and they're on their own property? FOUL!!!!

Can't remember which state... maybe Ohio or Kentucky, it is.. a Shall Issue CWP for all over 21, and MAY issue for 18 to 21.... the local chief LEO has the option, on review and his satisfaction the kid is responsible, to issue a CWP to an 18 year old.

Now, if he's been caught speeding a half dozen times, maybe a few minor misdemeanor vandalism or disturbing the public charges, Chief LEO can, and should deny the priviledge until 21.

If I had a daughter gone off to college at 19, I'd fear for her personal safety... college campuses are notorious for all manner of violation of persons.... rape in particular. Forbidding her the means to defend herself in such instances is wrong.... since when does the Second Ammendment fall out of the Constitution until someone is 21? If she is enough of a "people" to attend college, or join the military, at 17, 18, she is enough of a "people" to not have her right to arms infringed.

Sure, I've also known a whole bunch if wild and crazy and irresponsible kids (some well into their thirties....... go figure) that have NO BUSINESS getting near a handgun they can carry about on their persons.... somehow, to these wild donkeys suddenly become responsible enough on their 21st birthday? Not hardly... so then, why deny them this on the day before, and give it them the day of? And, more to the point, why deny their mature and responsible younger peers the right guaranteed them under the Constitution?

Passing the 21st aniversary of the day of their birth has nothing to do with their maturity. Why reward/penalise on this basis alone?
 
Old enough to vote & old enough to fight & die for their country but not old enough to drink or own a pistol? Hmmm, maybe you need to rethink your position.
ZeeZee. I was in the Army. I have been to combat for my country. I can tell you from experiance that those 18yo's don't have the access to the weapons like you think they do. Only Officers, machine gunners and select people carry a pistol in the Army. My son is 19. I have been teaching him to shoot since he was 2 1/2. He has been out hunting with me since he was 10, and hunting since he was 12. I don't feel he is old enough to think the whole thing thru. I don't feel he is responcible enough to carry a pistol concealed.
 
ZeeZee. My son is 19. I have been teaching him to shoot since he was 2 1/2. He has been out hunting with me since he was 10, and hunting since he was 12. I don't feel he is old enough to think the whole thing thru. I don't feel he is responcible enough to carry a pistol concealed.

Rick, as you know, my son is 20 and is very responsible around firearms. That said, I could not agree with you more that he should not be allowed to carry a concealed firearm at his age, and he is a pretty responsible kid.

The frontal lobe of the brain does not fully develop in a male until around age 25. This is the part of the brain that enables us to recongnize the consequenses for our actions. I know that I sure did not have the required common sense at that age.
 
I think all those different 21 years of age requirements should be changed to 18 years of age.

If an 18 yo can vote, be charged as an adult for having sex with a minor who is 17 years of age, they can decide to get married without their parents consent, they can become a porn star, they can join the military without a parents consent, will be charged as an adult if convicted of a crime, can legally sign a contract on behalf of them selves,.........

But they cant buy and drink alcohol (at least in most states), cant carry a consealed firearm, cant buy a handgun, cant buy a pack of smokes or a cigar...

Pretty wishy washy if you ask me.

Some of my examples may not be exactly right and maybe weird, sorry!
 
I like brother Ted's quote: something like, they have turned the 2nd amendment into a tax with an expiration date.

CC when you are 8 if you are responsible enough.....
 

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